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  • Wickerman
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    Originally posted by Wickerman View Post

    Yes, Debs once said something about her attacker being her husband, or 'significant other', someone who had been in the army.
    I shouldn't give specifics it was a long time ago.
    Dammit, there's too many Annie's in this mystery, Debs might have been talking about Annie Millwood not Annie Farmer.
    Sorry just forget I said anything.

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  • etenguy
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    Originally posted by Wickerman View Post

    Are you talking about someone like Ada Wilson?
    The description of the man who attacked her bares some resemblance to later Ripper suspects.


    I do agree, we have no reason to suppose the canonical victims represent the only times he went out on the hunt.
    Hi Wickerman - basically yes, though her attack seems to be motivated by theft which I think points towards a different attacker.

    I thought October 1888 would be a good time to look - no ripper murders that month and would be in the middle of the ripper murder streak - perhaps he tried but failed. Also, if there was a failed attack then, he would likely have been following the pattern of attack associated with him which might make a link with him slightly more straight-forward.

    Of the three women mentioned on this thread so far - I think Millwood is the most interesting - though it would be difficult to establish since it would mean first establishing that Tabram was a ripper victim and establishing a progression in JtR's method of attack. There are threads on this site where that is heavily contested.

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  • Wickerman
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    Originally posted by etenguy View Post

    I need to look up her story, but sceptical if Annie claimed it was JtR rather than the police identifying the possibility.
    Yes, Debs once said something about her attacker being her husband, or 'significant other', someone who had been in the army.
    I shouldn't give specifics it was a long time ago.

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  • etenguy
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    Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post

    i beleive millwood was a victim who survived a ripper attack
    I can understand why, especially if you believe Martha Tabram was a ripper victim. Certainly worth knowing more about her attack.

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  • etenguy
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    Originally posted by Joshua Rogan View Post
    Annie Farmer claimed she was attacked by Jack in a lodging house in November '88, although the police were skeptical.
    I need to look up her story, but sceptical if Annie claimed it was JtR rather than the police identifying the possibility.

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  • Joshua Rogan
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    Annie Farmer claimed she was attacked by Jack in a lodging house in November '88, although the police were skeptical.

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  • Abby Normal
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    Originally posted by etenguy View Post
    The Yorkshire ripper murdered 13 women in the late 1970s. In addition, 7 women survived an attack by him, although there was not always a connection made between the survivors' attacks and the murders until some time later.

    I cannot imagine there is much new in the search for more information about the JtR murders, but I have not been able to locate any information about research into any attacks that occurred during that period where the woman survived but there is reason to think her attacker may have been JtR. Such research would be extremely difficult and would need to contend with many challenges - not least that attacks may not have been officially reported. Also, we can only speculate how JtR approached his victims, though there is good reason to believe he posed as a punter and he and his victim went to a 'safe' place for business.

    I wondered whether there was a victim who survived JtR and whether anyone has searched for her to learn her story and what it has to tell us.
    i beleive millwood was a victim who survived a ripper attack

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  • Wickerman
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    Originally posted by etenguy View Post
    The Yorkshire ripper murdered 13 women in the late 1970s. In addition, 7 women survived an attack by him, although there was not always a connection made between the survivors' attacks and the murders until some time later.

    I cannot imagine there is much new in the search for more information about the JtR murders, but I have not been able to locate any information about research into any attacks that occurred during that period where the woman survived but there is reason to think her attacker may have been JtR. Such research would be extremely difficult and would need to contend with many challenges - not least that attacks may not have been officially reported. Also, we can only speculate how JtR approached his victims, though there is good reason to believe he posed as a punter and he and his victim went to a 'safe' place for business.

    I wondered whether there was a victim who survived JtR and whether anyone has searched for her to learn her story and what it has to tell us.
    Are you talking about someone like Ada Wilson?
    The description of the man who attacked her bares some resemblance to later Ripper suspects.


    I do agree, we have no reason to suppose the canonical victims represent the only times he went out on the hunt.

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  • etenguy
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    The victim that survived a JtR attack

    The Yorkshire ripper murdered 13 women in the late 1970s. In addition, 7 women survived an attack by him, although there was not always a connection made between the survivors' attacks and the murders until some time later.

    I cannot imagine there is much new in the search for more information about the JtR murders, but I have not been able to locate any information about research into any attacks that occurred during that period where the woman survived but there is reason to think her attacker may have been JtR. Such research would be extremely difficult and would need to contend with many challenges - not least that attacks may not have been officially reported. Also, we can only speculate how JtR approached his victims, though there is good reason to believe he posed as a punter and he and his victim went to a 'safe' place for business.

    I wondered whether there was a victim who survived JtR and whether anyone has searched for her to learn her story and what it has to tell us.
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