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  • #376
    Phil,

    I am new to the forum and havent had the chance outside of it to even discuss ripperology so, yes, Mike is the first one who I have heard suppose that theory.

    And your right, serial killing isnt the answer for everything.
    My own opinion of Stride is very tipsy as well.

    I dont go by "majority opinion".
    To me the murders are TOO similar, TOO close in proximity, and TOO close in date to be disimilar.

    But I have alway checked upon the theory that supposes three killers, I have an open mind. I, however, tend to stray away from that opinion however.

    I am afraid it would be hard to convince me otherwise, weather it is the work of the "Blood creature" or not.

    Not ment to offend any of you guys just saying what I think.

    yours truly
    Washington Irving:

    "To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "

    Stratford-on-Avon

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    • #377
      Mike,

      I dont think he ran by a schedual.
      The killer was more than likely right handed, because the only Doctor the suppose the killer was left handed was Llewelyn.

      A killer doesnt kill the exact same way each time so I can remove questions 2 and 3.

      he was a Lust murderer, which doesnt mean anything sexual at all, only that they attack the sexual reproductive organs.
      And he may have been a sexual sadist, which then no intercoarse is necissary.
      About them being strangers we cant answer that question without the killer himself.

      The doctors at the inquest believe, if I am correct, that the objective was the same. my question for you is on what evidence??Organ harvisting may be that killer wanted to take trophies. Not enough to pin a motive.

      The dates of the murders point to an employed killer.

      There are many reasons to why he may have stopped, serial killers can just stop killing. Usualy if they feel they are too close to detection or he died. I doubt he commited suicide.

      the constent trait is they are all women of the same class dying the same way, a cut throat.
      Washington Irving:

      "To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "

      Stratford-on-Avon

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      • #378
        Originally posted by corey123 View Post
        Dont know where that is??
        Yes. No.

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        • #379
          Well no because I have no clue what or where it is???
          Washington Irving:

          "To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "

          Stratford-on-Avon

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          • #380
            Originally posted by corey123 View Post
            Mike,

            I dont think he ran by a schedual.
            The killer was more than likely right handed, because the only Doctor the suppose the killer was left handed was Llewelyn.

            A killer doesnt kill the exact same way each time so I can remove questions 2 and 3.

            he was a Lust murderer, which doesnt mean anything sexual at all, only that they attack the sexual reproductive organs.
            And he may have been a sexual sadist, which then no intercoarse is necissary.
            About them being strangers we cant answer that question without the killer himself.

            The doctors at the inquest believe, if I am correct, that the objective was the same. my question for you is on what evidence??Organ harvisting may be that killer wanted to take trophies. Not enough to pin a motive.

            The dates of the murders point to an employed killer.

            There are many reasons to why he may have stopped, serial killers can just stop killing. Usualy if they feel they are too close to detection or he died. I doubt he commited suicide.

            the constent trait is they are all women of the same class dying the same way, a cut throat.
            Hello Corey,

            The consistant trait is they are all women of the same class dying of a cut throat?
            ... McKenzie, Coles, Farmer all did as well!!

            The dates of the murders point to an employed killer.
            That has NEVER been proven nor disproven. It is supposition.

            A killer doesnt kill the exact same way each time....
            Bundy... VERY similar actually, and I don't have to name more killers of the serial variety to prove that point.

            The doctors at the inquest believe, if I am correct, that the objective was the same....
            Excuse me for perhaps being picky, but you first question Llewellyn's evidence as different from the other doctors and reject it, then cite that the doctors evidence re the objective is the same, and accept that. Again, excuse me, but that's playing "hop on what fits your theory" isnt it?

            respectfully,

            best wishes

            Phil
            Chelsea FC. TRUE BLUE. 💙


            Justice for the 96 = achieved
            Accountability? ....

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            • #381
              Well no I neither believe that the objective they see is the one and I also dont believe Llewellyns observations to be credable.

              I said that the doctors believed the objective to be the same, and I asked you on what evidence did they assume such a thing??

              Sorry if the wording was confusing.

              And yes those three are, but you asked and I told you a constent trait.
              Ok, to be a good sport, heres another.
              Lets discard stride for a moment, another constent trait it disembowlment.

              Not a very commen apsect in many murders.

              yours truly.

              p.s I know the employment theory has never been proven but I adopt it because it is the most likely.
              Washington Irving:

              "To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "

              Stratford-on-Avon

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              • #382
                Originally posted by corey123 View Post
                Well no because I have no clue what or where it is???
                Thus be there at 6.
                The Calypso.
                Front de Mer.
                You can't miss it.

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                • #383
                  Originally posted by corey123 View Post
                  And yes those three are, but you asked and I told you a constent trait.
                  Ok, to be a good sport, heres another.
                  Lets discard stride for a moment, another constent trait it disembowlment.
                  Hello Corey,

                  On the Battleground thread, you have voted for ONE killer of SIX victims.
                  Either Stride is in or out. It has nothing to do with sporting behaviour to offer to drop Stride, just to fit another catagory!

                  Respectfully

                  best wishes

                  Phil
                  Chelsea FC. TRUE BLUE. 💙


                  Justice for the 96 = achieved
                  Accountability? ....

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                  • #384
                    well,

                    I am really tipsy on the stride topic. Right now Im for her
                    being a victim but barely so.

                    Anyways I could say he was interupted as still find that constent trait.

                    yours truly
                    Last edited by corey123; 01-01-2010, 04:58 AM.
                    Washington Irving:

                    "To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "

                    Stratford-on-Avon

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                    • #385
                      Originally posted by Phil Carter View Post
                      Kelly is also under question, by established Ripperologists of repute.
                      Name three 'Ripperologists of repute' who question Kelly as one of the C5.
                      protohistorian-Where would we be without Stewart Evans or Paul Begg,Kieth Skinner, Martin Fido,or Donald Rumbelow?

                      Sox-Knee deep in Princes & Painters with Fenian ties who did not mutilate the women at the scene, but waited with baited breath outside the mortuary to carry out their evil plots before rushing home for tea with the wife...who would later poison them of course

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                      • #386
                        Take away repute and you get Mike, Lynn, and Phil(dont know them enough to say if they are of repute so no offense ment)
                        Washington Irving:

                        "To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "

                        Stratford-on-Avon

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                        • #387
                          Hello Sox,

                          Respectfully, I advise you to read through the threads, You will find them there.

                          best wishes and a Happy New Year!

                          Phil
                          Chelsea FC. TRUE BLUE. 💙


                          Justice for the 96 = achieved
                          Accountability? ....

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                          • #388
                            Hi corey,

                            I appreciate the answers you provided,... I will just add though in one Canonical case its almost certain the killer was left handed. Rather than belabor the point, Ill let you and David and others carry on with this line of questioning as I know you're serious in your quest to find proof for your theory.

                            Again, bearing in mind that "theory" is just an opinion without facts to validate it.

                            That's why I and others contest a Canonical Group in the first place.

                            Good luck, see you on other threads Im sure.

                            Best regards corey

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                            • #389
                              Mike,

                              I liked answering them.

                              I would say it would be wrong to say the killer of Nichols to be left handed, for one Llewllyn isnt very credable. He says he thinks she was killed while standing up, He thinks the killer to be left handed, he even thought the abdominal wounds came first befor the cut throat. He even later doubted his theory of a left handed killer.

                              yours truly.

                              p.s yes I know that a theory is only but a theory.
                              Washington Irving:

                              "To a homeless man, who has no spot on this wide world which he can truly call his own, there is a momentary feeling of something like independence and territorial consequence, when, after a weary day's travel, he kicks off his boots, thrusts his feet into slippers, and stretches himself before an inn fire. Let the world without go as it may; let kingdoms rise and fall, so long as he has the wherewithal to pay his bills, he is, for the time being, the very monarch of all he surveys. The arm chair in his throne; the poker his sceptre, and the little parlour of some twelve feet square, his undisputed empire. "

                              Stratford-on-Avon

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                              • #390
                                Originally posted by perrymason View Post
                                Hi corey,

                                I appreciate the answers you provided,... I will just add though in one Canonical case its almost certain the killer was left handed. Best regards corey
                                Hi Mike,

                                you mean in Nichols' case ??
                                Good Heavens!
                                Even Llewellyn changed his mind, and that is certain, not almost.

                                Amitiés mon cher,
                                David

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