Which Modern Era Killer Shares Most Similarity with Jack the Ripper?

[AdamWalsh]

I do belive one of robert nappers murders was desrcribed by the police as being almost exactlyl the same as the work of jack

Exactly, the Samantha Bissett murder scene was very similar to Mary Kelly in that she was gutted and displayed in her front room - the scene was apparently so upsetting the crime scene photographer was off work for months with distress.............plus of course Rachel Nickell was stabbed and slashed so viciously she was almost decapitated.

[caz]

Yes, and just look at the mistakes that were made in the Napper case by 'professionals' who dismissed the very idea that the outdoor and indoor murders could be by the same hand.

I wonder when such lessons from recent times will finally be applied to older unsolved cases.

Love,

Caz
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[Scorpio]

Rachell Nickell was murdered on Wimbledon common, which is a long way from Thamesmead where Robert Napper lived. Napper was visiting some kind of medical facility near to the common when he attacked Rachell Nickell and this event could be considered a crime of opportunity and is far removed from his established movement and behaviour on record which is all the professionals have to work with.

[caz]

Well that's just my point, Scorpio.

The professionals don't know when to admit that they don't know.

Chiefly they forget that these people are not robots, just very naughty boys who can and will move around and alter any number of things that the professionals think they have 'established' about them from whatever movements and behaviour may appear on the record.

"By the way, coppers, this week I will be mostly in the Wimbledon Common area, make sure you update the record accordingly."

Love,

Caz
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[Man Flex]

Having quickly reviewed the murders of Rachel Nickel and Samantha Bisset I think we can assume many similiarities between JTR and Robert Napper.

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[Doug Irvine]

"The Monster of Florence took the genitals of his female victims but he is kind of like the Zodiac Killer in his targeting of couples rather than individuals like Jack

I've always found it interesting that William MacDonald felt that he could only kill in Sydney and that was the reason he returned there from when he fled to Melbourne after his last killing so as to continue killing.
I wonder if Jack the Ripper had similar feelings?"


Jack Daw, According to the F.B.I. profile of the Monster of Florence, found in the book The Monster of Florence by Douglas Preston and Mario Spezi, the Monster's male victims were incidental. They were just something to be got out of the way so the Monster could get to his goal the mutilation of the women. The profile also stated that the murders were were location specific. In other words the Monster didn't target couples, he would choose an area and then wait for the victims to come to him. Think of the Monster as a sider in a web. According to the profile the Monster could only kill in these comfort zones. If the Monster was to leave these comfort zones he would be unable to kill. If Jack the Ripper was the same way he would not be able to kill outside White Chapel.

[alex_the_droog]

I'm surprised no one on here has mentioned Zodiac.

Think about it, people:

1. his identity is unknown, just like Jack

2. He wrote letters to the newspapers (although the Ripper letters are considered fake, they remain an integral part of the story)

3. Like the Ripper, one of the physical clues Zodiac left was a blood-stained piece of garment from one of his victims (which he mailed along with one of his letters).

4. Both killers were able to avoid getting a lot of blood on them from the killing.

5. All of the killings took place in public areas, out in the open (except for the Ripper's mary Kelly killing).

6. No effort was made to try to hide the bodies.

There may be other similarities but that is all I can think of right now. If I think of any in the future (or if any of you can), I'll post them.

JTR Sickert: you missed a couple of similarities between The Zodiac and The Ripper.

7. Like JTR, the Zodiac killings just stopped. Similar theories are also attributed to this (he died, or was imprisoned for other offences)

8. Zodiac has his own set of canonical victims (7), but other murders have been linked to him both before and after the official ones.

9. Loads of suspects have been linked to the crimes, although not the numbers that have been linked to the Whitechapel case. However Arthur Lee Allen remains the only official suspect in the Zodiac crimes.

From hell

Chris

[Witch]

I'd say Lucian Staniak (The Red Spider)

Sorry for digging the old stuff, but this one is nothing more than urban legend, invented by the journalists from polish magazine "Zły". "Zły" specialised in gore stories about killers and other things and once they published a text about fictional serial killer. And then the story started to live it's own life.

[DVV]

Ed Kemper.

[Trevor Marriott]

In my opinion Peter Sutcliffe aka The Yorkshire Ripper.
H targeted lone prostitutes at night renedering them senseless by hitting them over the head with a hammer and in many case using a knife to mutilate their abdomens to the point that their intestines spilled out.

[Barnaby]

I think it is a mistake to look for the most surface similarities. Men kill prostitutes for lots of reasons. I think you got to begin by determining why Jack killed and then looked for parallels in motive even if there are superficial dissimilaritites. Of course why he killed is a point of contention so I don't think that we really can find the modern equivalent because we don't know JTR!

[dannymc]

Sorry for digging the old stuff, but this one is nothing more than urban legend, invented by the journalists from polish magazine "Zły". "Zły" specialised in gore stories about killers and other things and once they published a text about fictional serial killer. And then the story started to live it's own life.

So Lucian was not a real person is that right?

[Rubyretro]

I've said it before, and I'll risk boring you with it again :
Danilo Restivo.

-He murdered his first victim in a private upstairs room with multiple stab wounds, using two different weapons, and posing his victim with her lower half exposed.

-Hair stealing = organ stealing.

-His next known victim was killed in her own home, with a back story of 'missing keys', killed by one method (hitting her over the head) but then stabbed and cut about. She was mutilated (including breasts cut off) , trousers lowered and posed but not sexually assaulted.

-He brought himself to Police attention as a 'witness' in his own case

This killer was stalking women (he would have been a serial killer, but for the police following him), reading his own publicity, busy planning, stealing women's hair (organ harvesting), whilst posing as a 'concerned neighbour' of Heather Barnett.

[RedBundy13]

Zodiac

My opinion on the Zodiac is that he was driven to kill strictly for the publicity. Apart from his first one or two victims his main goal was to see his name in the papers. In fact, he would write that if he did not see his letters re-printed in the paper he would be forced to kill more people because of it. The Ripper, it seems to me, was punishing his victims whereas the Zodiac used them as a means to get his name publicised.

[Bridewell]

The Logical Inference

My thought is that Zodiac happened too long ago to be considered 'modern era', which should reasonably apply only to the last 20 years. I must say there has never been another serial killer who was really comparable to Jack.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

Tom, I entirely agree with you. As everybody seems to struggle to find another serial killer who was truly comparable to Jack, is it not remarkable how few people are prepared to attribute more than 4 or 5 murders to Jack the Ripper? It seems illogical to argue, as many do, that no others are truly similar, but to accept that there were, in 1888, two serial killers operating simultaneously (and with a similar MO) in the same small area of London's East End.