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  • Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post
    The Torso Victims were body parts. They didn’t require someone carrying a fully clothed corpse along a street unnoticed. The question therefore is why would someone do this?
    Could someone remove a kidney in that lighting? Apparently yes because it happened. How do you know that the killer was unskilled?
    Theres nothing ever straight forward about a conspiracy theory but they’re easy to come up with. Find an error and label it deliberate. Find a coincidence a label it impossible. Find an unknown and fill the gap. Label the obvious as too obvious. Reply to an inconvenient statement with “well they would say that wouldn’t they?” There’s not a shred of evidence that those women weren’t killed were they were found. Nor is there any evidence that The Illuminati were harvesting the organs to bury in the grounds of Rosslyn Chapel to bring on the Second Coming of a messiah called Colin either. Jack the Ripper was a serial killer, working alone, killing women in the street for reasons known only to himself.
    i don't believe either Chapman or Eddowes were carried 'down the street' either ... you're just failing to see the obvious option .
    Your mind is closed to anything other than a random local of flower and dean street I suspect so you will fail to see it .
    "could someone remove a kidney in that lighting? Apparently yes because it happened" says it all really lol
    The answer is quite simply that a body was found with a kidney removed .... rather than just accept without thought to the preposterous suggestion that it was done in the dark and move on , I prefer to consider just how it could have happened .

    and then you're off giving drivel about God's and stuff , completely irrelevant

    Trouble is there is a shed load of evidence showing that they were not killed where found but you choose to ignore it as you did when you said 'it happened'
    Find another serial killer who cut out kidneys in the darkness at the roadside in lightening quick time if you wish to give the lone random a smidgen of credibility
    You can lead a horse to water.....

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    • Originally posted by packers stem View Post

      ...

      Trouble is there is a shed load of evidence showing that they were not killed where found ...
      There is not one iota of evidence to support that statement. Every detail of the crime scenes indicates all the victims were killed exactly where they were found.

      - Jeff

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      • Originally posted by JeffHamm View Post

        There is not one iota of evidence to support that statement. Every detail of the crime scenes indicates all the victims were killed exactly where they were found.

        - Jeff
        Feel free to explain what you think demonstrates your claim
        You can lead a horse to water.....

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        • Originally posted by packers stem View Post
          Feel free to explain what you think demonstrates your claim
          You first.

          - Jeff

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          • Originally posted by JeffHamm View Post

            You first.

            - Jeff
            I have , on numerous occasions .
            were talking about it now on another thread with regards to the kidney lol
            You can lead a horse to water.....

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            • Hi packers stem (great name by the way):
              Originally posted by packers stem View Post

              I have , on numerous occasions .
              were talking about it now on another thread with regards to the kidney lol
              And so have I. So I guess we're done.

              - Jeff

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              • Originally posted by JeffHamm View Post
                Hi packers stem (great name by the way):


                And so have I. So I guess we're done.

                - Jeff
                Until the day finally arrives when someone can finally give a convincing argument for the Joe Bloggs book .... kidney removal for dummies and the blind ....
                then yep

                and cheers .... good ole Mathew and his grapes lol
                You can lead a horse to water.....

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                • Originally posted by packers stem View Post

                  i don't believe either Chapman or Eddowes were carried 'down the street' either ... you're just failing to see the obvious option .
                  Then why don’t you simply enlighten me instead of trying to get me to indulge in a guessing game PS? Call me stupid if you like. As you say, I'm failing to see it. The usual solution to that state of affairs is that the proposer actually explains what he’s suggesting?

                  Your mind is closed to anything other than a random local of flower and dean street I suspect so you will fail to see it .
                  Of the named suspects the one that I prefer wasn’t a local. I’ve never thought that the ripper had to be a local man. Local knowledge would have helped of course but I don’t feel that it was imperative.

                  "could someone remove a kidney in that lighting? Apparently yes because it happened" says it all really lol
                  The answer is quite simply that a body was found with a kidney removed .... rather than just accept without thought to the preposterous suggestion that it was done in the dark and move on , I prefer to consider just how it could have happened .
                  Has it been categorically proven (or even just to the satisfaction of a majority) that the killer couldn’t have removed a kidney in situ? I’d say that’s a no.

                  and then you're off giving drivel about God's and stuff , completely irrelevant
                  Because my toes curl up when people start over complicating purely so that they can jump up and down and say that they’ve discovered something that no one else has ever noticed.

                  Trouble is there is a shed load of evidence showing that they were not killed where found but you choose to ignore it as you did when you said 'it happened'
                  Theres a book on the JFK assassination called Best Evidence by David Lipton. It’s a very thick, intricately argued case that Kennedy’s head wounds were surgically altered on AirForce One! It nonsense of course (and the most boring book I’ve ever read by a mile). If you set out to look for a conspiracy evidence tends to fall from the trees.

                  Find another serial killer who cut out kidneys in the darkness at the roadside in lightening quick time if you wish to give the lone random a smidgen of credibility
                  A nice Black Swan Fallacy to end with.
                  Regards

                  Herlock






                  "There is nothing more deceptive than an obvious fact!"

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                  • Originally posted by packers stem View Post

                    Until the day finally arrives when someone can finally give a convincing argument for the Joe Bloggs book .... kidney removal for dummies and the blind ....
                    then yep

                    and cheers .... good ole Mathew and his grapes lol
                    What if the killer had medical/anatomical knowledge?
                    Regards

                    Herlock






                    "There is nothing more deceptive than an obvious fact!"

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                    • Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post

                      What if the killer had medical/anatomical knowledge?
                      Indeed, what if he just knew roughly where a kidney was? It's not as if this is forbidden knowledge.
                      Kind regards, Sam Flynn

                      "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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                      • Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post

                        Indeed, what if he just knew roughly where a kidney was? It's not as if this is forbidden knowledge.
                        Exactly. It’s often made to seem as if the killer had to approach the task as a surgeon would have. This wasn’t an operation. It suits a preconception though.
                        Regards

                        Herlock






                        "There is nothing more deceptive than an obvious fact!"

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