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Originally posted by Fisherman View Post... or me. It makes for a not very likely solution.
We are not talking about Joseph Hyam Levy, the witness.
We are talking about Jacob Levy, the insane butcher, who lived up the road from him.Last edited by Batman; 12-12-2018, 01:46 PM.Bona fide canonical and then some.
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Originally posted by Batman View PostWrong levy. It is easy to make that mistake. Don't worry.
We are not talking about Joseph Levy, the witness.
We are talking about Jacob Levy, the insane butcher, who lived up the road from him.
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Originally posted by Fisherman View PostI know that, I am familiar with Tracy Iansons work on Jacob.
I am sure Sam would be familiar with that work, as are many of us.
I am referencing Mark King from 1999.
Bona fide canonical and then some.
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Originally posted by Scott Nelson View PostJacob Levy ran what was his Uncle's butcher shop near the top (north) of Middlesex Street (practically in the heart of the Petticoat Lane Market.)
So yes, he was well-off compared to others.
I was thinking about Abby's question but overall I don't think JtR had to be a rich man to be dressed as per Hutchinson's description. He just had to have access to these articles of clothing and other items through which there are a number of avenues and a good amount of time between Eddowes and Kelly to get that done IF JtR was reacting to witness descriptions.Bona fide canonical and then some.
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Originally posted by Batman View PostYet above and from prior posts it seems you were going along with Sam on this being Joseph Levy and not Jacob Levy we are discussing.
I am sure Sam would be familiar with that work, as are many of us.
I am referencing Mark King from 1999.
https://casebook.org/suspects/jacoblevy.html
I have no idea what you mean by prior posts of mine pointing to any trouble on my behalf to tell the two apart. Maybe you can enlighten me on the point?Last edited by Fisherman; 12-12-2018, 02:33 PM.
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Originally posted by Harry D View PostYou're looking at this as the crow flies. Why couldn't the killer have taken a circuitous route back home? Something or someone may have put him off taking the direct path.
It is just that once we make these kinds of suggestions, then Goulston Street clue becomes worthless. We may just as well say that the rag was tossed there by a guy who lived in Rotten Row, but who made a bulbous turn into Whitechapel after killing Eddowes.
Its not that such a thing is impossible, not at all - but as I say, it puts the Goulston Street clue to shame. And as I remember it, the whole idea was that Jacob Levy´s home was on a direct route between Mitre Square and Goulston Street. That was what made people all very optimistic about his status as a Ripper suspect.
What happens to that optimism if we don't ascribe any genuine value to the placement of the rag, Harry?
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Originally posted by Batman View PostWrong levy. It is easy to make that mistake. Don't worry.
We are not talking about Joseph Hyam Levy, the witness.
We are talking about Jacob Levy, the insane butcher, who lived up the road from him.
I don't think it has been conclusively proven that Jacob levy was Joseph Hyam Levys cousin has it?
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Originally posted by Abby Normal View Posthi Batman
I don't think it has been conclusively proven that Jacob levy was Joseph Hyam Levys cousin has it?
Levy is a common surname at the time I would think.Bona fide canonical and then some.
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Originally posted by Abby Normal View PostOk thanks!
Yes very common.
IMHO until its not an unknown then jacob levy is pretty much a non starter for me.Bona fide canonical and then some.
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Originally posted by Batman View PostYou wouldn't even need the same surname to apply that same reasoning to any suspect though. Even Kozminski for example. Until it is shown he is not related...
Unlike levy...unless of course its proven he was josephs cousin, but even so it would still be a tenuous connection to the case at that.
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Originally posted by Abby Normal View PostNot sure what your point is. Koz has a definite connection to the case.
Unlike levy...unless of course its proven he was josephs cousin, but even so it would still be a tenuous connection to the case at that.
I thought you are objecting to the possibility of them being related and therefore there is some problem with that for you and until you know, it's all a non-starter.Bona fide canonical and then some.
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