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  • #31
    [QUOTE=Elamarna;398647][QUOTE=Pierre;398643]

    Pierre

    The next question would be, how would killing the women reduce or stop this threat?
    It did temporarily stop it at first and when the threat was taking over again, it started again. When the threat was over, it was all over. The murders ceased.

    I do not of course expect an answer.
    I am honestly doing the very best I can now, Steve.

    However one could conjecture several options:

    1. The women are the threat, this of course is the old royal theory, I reject that.
    I strongly reject it too.

    2. He is trying to make a point, but who too?
    That is correct.

    A. You have suggested he was sending a message, well several, to a particular Police official but have not said who?
    There is a set of coherent sources giving the ID of the murderer.

    I would suggest Monro, with Warren also in the know.

    However I can take that line no further at present having nothing to use in an hypothesis as regards motive and intent.
    I am honestly very sorry for that. I wish I could discuss the whole matter with you.
    B. you have also hinted, as David has also said, that a women is involved, birthdays and witness at Millers court.

    What relationship existed between her and your man is not known.

    However he could have been trying to convince her of something?

    While both options may be linked, neither give an answer to the motive or anything else.
    The problem was a very complex one. That is also the reason why the sources must be interpreted the way they are interpreted.

    Regards, Pierre

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    • #32
      QUOTE=Elamarna;398648

      One must assume that if this were the case the hate or the need to act on it is removed in 89/90.

      again several options:

      the threat is dropped. example, say it was legal, it is decided to proceed no further

      The person or persons behind the threat change, maybe they move. or are no more, they die.

      sure there are others?

      steve
      There was a very serious crime committed.

      Pierre

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Pierre View Post
        QUOTE=Elamarna;398648



        There was a very serious crime committed.

        Pierre

        what can be more serious than murder, for which the penalty was death, only treason would rate more highly.

        Of course plenty of others also carried harsh punishments too.

        one can only assume this was done to in the hope that evidence would go away?

        your hypothesis i assume is it did?


        s

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Elamarna View Post
          what can be more serious than murder, for which the penalty was death, only treason would rate more highly.

          Of course plenty of others also carried harsh punishments too.

          one can only assume this was done to in the hope that evidence would go away?

          your hypothesis i assume is it did?


          s


          Is your hypothesis:


          1. That the killer had specific hatred of those he killed?

          or

          2. He had hatred of women in general?


          or

          3. He hated this class of woman and how he perceived they lived.




          or something else?


          Steve

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          • #35
            In your hypothesis

            Does the cessation of the murders coincide with Monro,s resignation? Is the police,s chief financial officer, the Receiver, involved?

            Signed, 20 Questions
            there,s nothing new, only the unexplored

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            • #36
              [QUOTE=Elamarna;398656]Is your hypothesis:


              1. That the killer had specific hatred of those he killed?

              or
              That is right. A specific hatred but not a personal one.
              2. He had hatred of women in general?
              Not in general.

              or

              3. He hated this class of woman and how he perceived they lived.
              That is also right, Steve.

              Regards, Pierre

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              • #37
                [QUOTE=Robert St Devil;398674]
                Does the cessation of the murders coincide with Monro,s resignation?
                Hi Robert,

                What do you mean by "coincide"?

                Is the police,s chief financial officer, the Receiver, involved?
                No.

                Regards, Pierre

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                • #38
                  [QUOTE=Pierre;398717]
                  Originally posted by Elamarna View Post
                  Is your hypothesis:




                  That is right. A specific hatred but not a personal one.


                  Not in general.



                  That is also right, Steve.

                  Regards, Pierre

                  understood.


                  is "Helen" a girl or a woman, different thread i know, but somehow i think not really off topic

                  in this case lets define a woman as being over 16.


                  steve

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                  • #39
                    [QUOTE=Elamarna;398720]
                    Originally posted by Pierre View Post


                    understood.


                    is "Helen" a girl or a woman, different thread i know, but somehow i think not really off topic

                    in this case lets define a woman as being over 16.

                    steve
                    Hi Steve,

                    She was, as I wrote, a girl. So she was not over 16.

                    Regards, Pierre

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                    • #40
                      [QUOTE=Pierre;398726]
                      Originally posted by Elamarna View Post

                      Hi Steve,

                      She was, as I wrote, a girl. So she was not over 16.

                      Regards, Pierre
                      thank you just checking my facts

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                      • #41
                        [QUOTE=Elamarna;398731]
                        Originally posted by Pierre View Post

                        thank you just checking my facts
                        I'm almost afraid to ask, but who the hell is Helen?
                        "Is all that we see or seem
                        but a dream within a dream?"

                        -Edgar Allan Poe


                        "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
                        quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

                        -Frederick G. Abberline

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                        • #42
                          [QUOTE=Abby Normal;398733]
                          Originally posted by Elamarna View Post

                          I'm almost afraid to ask, but who the hell is Helen?
                          Abby

                          You missed his post on the thread about who you would most like a photo of?.

                          Pierre said a girl named Helen, obviously she must be of some interest to his ideas.



                          Steve

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
                            I'm almost afraid to ask, but who the hell is Helen?
                            Why do people keep getting reeled in by this nonsense?

                            When I first saw Pierre post his latest tidbit, I sighed, carried on scrolling through the thread and didn't give it a second thought, but it seems that some people can't help themselves and want to play his juvenile game.

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                            • #44
                              [QUOTE=Elamarna;398737]
                              Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post

                              Abby

                              You missed his post on the thread about who you would most like a photo of?.

                              Pierre said a girl named Helen, obviously she must be of some interest to his ideas.



                              Steve
                              Was that the girl who launched at least five knives and caused disemboweling amongst the towers of Whitechapel?

                              Jeff

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                              • #45
                                The face that launched a thousand rips.

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