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  • Stewart,

    Its no use, Ive been telling them that for years. Watch this...

    ...the only connection between the writing and the murders is the location of the apron. As the writing contains no reference to the murder or murders it impossible to connect the writing itself to the crime.

    Now wait for the Greater Graffiti Tits appear!

    Monty
    Monty

    https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...t/evilgrin.gif

    Author of Capturing Jack the Ripper.

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1445621622

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    • Originally posted by Monty View Post
      Stewart,

      Its no use, Ive been telling them that for years. Watch this...

      ...the only connection between the writing and the murders is the location of the apron. As the writing contains no reference to the murder or murders it impossible to connect the writing itself to the crime.
      This particular tit agrees with you, Neil.
      Kind regards, Sam Flynn

      "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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      • Youre more an owl Gareth.

        Monty
        Monty

        https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...t/evilgrin.gif

        Author of Capturing Jack the Ripper.

        http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1445621622

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        • Originally posted by Monty View Post
          Youre more an owl Gareth.
          Woo-hoo!
          Kind regards, Sam Flynn

          "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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          • Originally posted by Monty View Post
            As the writing contains no reference to the murder or murders
            Well, that of course depends upon your interpretation of what the graffito was intended to mean.

            Dan Norder
            Ripper Notes: The International Journal for Ripper Studies
            Web site: www.RipperNotes.com - Email: dannorder@gmail.com

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            • True Dan,

              However any mention of murder, murders, Mitre sq or the apron would remove the need for interpretation.

              Monty
              Monty

              https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...t/evilgrin.gif

              Author of Capturing Jack the Ripper.

              http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1445621622

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              • Well! I thought I would be saying that I agreed with Suzi and JohnR and Rob and Glenn, only to find that I'd apparently been over this in the podcast and was being quoted.
                I would only gloss it by saying I put forward the suggestion 20 years ago, noting the double negative as an intensifier and suggesting that it meant "Jews are people who won't accept responsibility [be blamed] for anything". That it was written by an angry gentile at apartments largely occupied by Jews, probably because he was dissatisfied with some purchase or deal and couldn't get his money back; and this was made the more probable as the doorway was the nearest niche to Wentworth Street, the market for secondhand shoes - something easy to find unsatisfactory after walkkng a little.
                Of course it's all speculation and it all depends on assuming that the writing had been there and unnoticed by Long and was not the work of the murderer. It got the accolade of approval from Richard Whittington-Egan at the time: the only thing to commend it, perhaps, in this HUGE discussion of all possibilities is that IF it's accepted as a source the message is clear and although it doesn't specify the precise grievance, complete enough in itself - "I'm pissed off with some Jew who won't admit he's done me wrong!"
                All the best,
                Martin F

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                • Double negative or not, Long or not, in 1888 most people interpreted the GSG as a blame against the Jews.
                  Other interpretations are possible, but they will never be the most obvious.

                  Amitiés,
                  David

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                  • Hi All,

                    Nope, I still can't see why the message can't be interpreted as almost a private joke, in conjunction with the discarded apron, along the lines of: "Hmmm, let's see the Joos wriggle out of this". In other words, Leather Apron wriggled out of it last time; now let's see 'em all wriggle out of Cotton Apron.

                    If the apron was laid strategically, along with the blame, at the Jews' door (yes, I realise it's a big if, but aren't they all?), then it does give meaning to such a message, regardless of whether or not Jack wrote it, and no matter what the writer intended it to mean.

                    I think Jack would have been pleased with the result in any case - but only if he wasn't Jewish himself. Not much difference to him whether it was all about a Jew selling faulty shoes or littering his own doorstep with crime scene evidence. It was all in the perception - still is.

                    Love,

                    Caz
                    X
                    "Comedy is simply a funny way of being serious." Peter Ustinov


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                    • Ladies & Gents.
                      I can see I will have to find the reference for this, but, Has anyone even mentioned that this graffiti was only 1" (approx) tall?

                      If a killer is going to advertize his presence he is going to broadcast his scribble in large bold letters, not itsy-bitsy teeny-weeny 1 inch high characters "in a round schoolboy hand".

                      C'mon people, the graffiti has nothing to do with the killings..
                      Regards, Jon S.

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                      • Excuse me, Man O' Straw...

                        The "G" had 3/4 inch capital letters and its height has been mentioned before.

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                        • Originally posted by Howard Brown View Post
                          Excuse me, Man O' Straw...

                          The "G" had 3/4 inch capital letters and its height has been mentioned before.
                          No wonder Long didn't see it 'till he was standing over the apron..

                          I say,... size matters..
                          Regards, Jon S.

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                          • No wonder Long didn't see it 'till he was standing over the apron..

                            I say,... size matters
                            ..- a heathen, non-believer from Britain covered in hay..

                            If thats the case,J.S...then me n' the G are doing fine.

                            Cheers !

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                            • Wickerman,

                              The Ripper didn't write the grafitti, but that doesn't mean it has nothing to do with the murders.

                              Mike
                              huh?

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                              • Originally posted by The Good Michael View Post
                                Wickerman,

                                The Ripper didn't write the grafitti, but that doesn't mean it has nothing to do with the murders.

                                Mike
                                I agree with the first part, but the second part has me puzzled, do I sense a hint of a theory here?
                                Regards, Jon S.

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