Abberline solved the GSG

[DVV]

Because even with all the malarkey Ive read over the years here...some about why we should consider these 2 men as one suspect, there is absolutely no chance that the killer of Liz Stride changed clothing before killing Kate Eddowes. Its a silly idea, like many, and sets a huge obstacle for those who see 1 man in these 2 witnessed suspects.

Cheers

Hi Mike

Because Schwartz said "black" and Lawende "pepper and salt" ?

Cheers

[Damaso Marte]

If the same person killed Chapman and Eddowes, they likely owned at least two hats.

[lynn cates]

I'll bite.

Hello David. Please do.

Cheers.
LC

[Michael W Richards]

The fact that BSM and Sailor Man have some matching characteristics is one thing.....but the simple truth is that they do not have the same clothing on. Not just similar...the same.

Because even with all the malarkey Ive read over the years here...some about why we should consider these 2 men as one suspect, there is absolutely no chance that the killer of Liz Stride changed clothing before killing Kate Eddowes. Its a silly idea, like many, and sets a huge obstacle for those who see 1 man in these 2 witnessed suspects.

Ive read assessments by posters who feel that there is similarity with a few of the suspects seen...but Ive read nothing about how this man came to own multiple outfits while residing in a poverty ridden district that equates roughly to Calcutta today.

Unless you have the same clothing seen...you likely dont have the same man. Most of these folks had one, perhaps 2, changes of clothes, and likely one pair of boots.

The boots are important to add here, considering John Kellys remarks at the Inquest.

Cheers

[DVV]

There is some truth in your reply, Lynn - but nothing that relates to the murders.

Two murders and three descriptions of a man of 28-30 years old, talking to the victims, rather short and stout, cap with a peak.

I can tell you his name, if you ask politely.

Good night Sir - I'm off to bed with Emma Bovary

[lynn cates]

similarities

Hello David. Thanks.

"still BSM resembles RSM."

Perhaps in the same way you and I resemble one another--we are both male and both have facial hair.

But you are quite young; I, quite old. And perhaps the ladies still find you attractive.

Yes, both wore caps (if they existed) and both were out and about that night.

Cheers.
LC

[DVV]

...but Sailor man doesn't exist.

All the suspects around Berner St. where specified, are 'Clerks' in appearance.

Mouarff.

Sailor Man has never been said to be a sailor.
And conversely, the "clerk" seen by Marshall had the sort of cap "that a sailor would wear".

L'habit ne fait pas le moine.
Et la nuit, tous les chats sont gris.

[Wickerman]

Same with Sailor Man, Lynn.

Cheers

...but Sailor man doesn't exist.

All the suspects around Berner St. where specified, are 'Clerks' in appearance.

[DVV]

Fine, but still BSM resembles RSM.
Such a luck for the club members.

Then another murder in Mitre Square.
And now that's too much luck.
But wait, there is more : the suspect is a gentile again.
About 30 years old, cap with a peak.

Cheers

[lynn cates]

humour

Hello David. I appreciate your sense of humour.

Cheers.
LC

[DVV]

Here it is, Lynn. It's a bit more than corraboration (after all, Schwartz should not be blamed because Pipoman did not show up).

Good old Schwartz !
He has fabricated a suspect that resembles both the man seen by Marshall and Sailor Man.
Hats-off ! (with peak)

[DVV]

By the way, one detail was NOT ambiguous--he was NOT a Jew and hence not a Socialist Jew.
LC

RSM wasn't a Jew either - and the witness who described him wasn't a Jewish club member.
Same with Sailor Man, Lynn.

Cheers

[lynn cates]

corroboration

Hello David. Thanks.

"And there was a BSM."

Indeed? So whom corroborated Israel's story?

Cheers.
LC

[DVV]

And the club members were so loyal to each other that they were willing to protect a murderer in their midst?
c.d.

Indeed, CD.
They used to have lunch once a week in Leicester Square, and Schwartz went by the name of Thursday.

Cheers

[lynn cates]

ambiguity

Hello (again) CD. Thanks.

"why not embellish the story by saying that he saw the BS man with knife in hand dragging Liz back into the yard?"

Why over-egg the pudding? Leave it ambiguous, and if some detail is disputed, you are covered. Also would he not have been expected to intervene?

By the way, one detail was NOT ambiguous--he was NOT a Jew and hence not a Socialist Jew.

Cheers.
LC