The Halse version

[caz]

Hi Phil,

I for one have suggested such an interpretation on and off for years. In short, the apron indicates that on this occasion the Jews won't be blamed without good reason.

Presumably the man who dropped the apron at that particular location (writing aside) would have had the strongest motive for wanting to incriminate the Jewish occupants if he had just murdered the apron's owner and was not a Jew himself.

Love,

Caz
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[Phil Carter]

Hello all,

I put this forward as a suggestion only a week or so ago. I would be interested in any serious views of this suggestion. I am not sure about it myself either way.


The Jews are those should be blamed for this.
(See bloody rag, herewith)
All one has to do I suppose is work out who wanted it to look like a Jew was the culprit.


On a side point, I would like to thank Don Souden for kindly sending me the complete article he wrote about Long and Halse. Most generous and thoughtful.

Kindly

Phil

[caz]

I don't think I'd have come forward to admit the graffito was my own work, even as a woman. They could have had me down as a mad, mutilating, message writing midwife and put the rope round my neck for my trouble.

What a mistaka ta maka.

Love,

Caz
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[Wickerman]

If Jack did not write the graffito, then somone else certainly did. It's intriguing to think, considering the publicity given to the graffito, that there was someone walking around the area who knew he, or she, was responsible for the graffito. Wonder why they never came forward ? It would have saved a lot of bother.

I wonder if everyone here think that all the citizens of Whitechapel were honest law abiding citizens?
Supposing this graffiti artist was wanted by the police for something else, petty theft, mugging, property damage?

[Observer]

That's fine Dave. I beg to differ though.

Regards

Observer

[Cogidubnus]

If they heard about it at all, I still really don't think they'd have given a stuff...sorry!

Dave

[Observer]

I think you miss my point. I'm reffering to the individual who wrote the graffito, should it have been written by a local, innocent of the act of murder. I'm sure, provided they were aware of the significance of the graffito, he/she, would have been a little hot under the collar when it was revealed that the police were of the opinion that it had possibly been written by the murderer.

Regards

Observer

[Cogidubnus]

Hi Observer

Either way, working day to day for survival, do you really think either Native cockneys, London-Irish or East European Jews would've seen chalk writings on a wall as important?

I don't...these people didn't even take Hitler that seriously! They honestly thought in some cases the Luftwaffe had indirectly done them a favour by demolishing some of the slums (and yet, even then, some propounded a thought that the older slums had survived better than the newer buildings).

I re-iterate what my Wapping grandad once told me..."Give it a rest son...Words is ten a penny"...

All the best
Dave

[Observer]

What makes you think it was a Cockney ? The immediate area was predominately Jewish. There is room for the graffito to have been written by a Jewish local, not involved with the murder. Also, are you saying that a local Cockney, should he had been the author, would have failed to see the enormity of the situation? That is, the innocent little message he scrawled on an East End doorway was being touted as the work of the East End murderer.

Observe

[Cogidubnus]

Sorry Observer, but I suspect the average Cockney really couldn't give a stuff about yet another piece of graffiti on a wall...he/she would probably have been more concerned with "the Irish coming in and taking our jobs or the Jews coming in and making money out of us"...but chalk words on a wall? Give it a rest son...words is ten a penny (as my east end grandad once told me!)...

Dave

[Observer]

Hi Dave

I beg to differ. The link between the graffito, and the murderer rendered it a very big deal indeed I'd say. Of course the reverse could be the solution, that is, the murderer wrote the graffito. And he, for obvious reasons, did not come forward.

Observer

[Cogidubnus]

Wonder why they never came forward ? It would have saved a lot of bother.

It probably wasn't seen as a big deal just then...

Dave

[Observer]

If Jack did not write the graffito, then somone else certainly did. It's intriguing to think, considering the publicity given to the graffito, that there was someone walking around the area who knew he, or she, was responsible for the graffito. Wonder why they never came forward ? It would have saved a lot of bother.

[lynn cates]

pulling rank

Hello Don. You are right. Halse sounded like the chap giving orders to Outram and Marriott when in fact he was outranked by one of them.

Cheers.
LC

[Bridewell]

Bridewell,

I am sorry if I was not clear. I have suggested that Detective Constable Daniel Halse seems -- to me -- to have painted himself in the most flattering light possible in his inquest testimony: always showing initiative, issuing orders, and so on. I particularly question that, as a "mere constable" surrounded by high ranking police officials, he actually protested loudly at the erasure of the graffito. In this, he is directly contradicted by PC Long, for what it is worth.

Don.

Hi Don,

I clearly got hold of the wrong end of the stick. My apologies.

All the Best, Bridewell