JUWES as acronym for a union?

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  • kwestmo
    Cadet
    • Aug 2008
    • 10

    #1

    JUWES as acronym for a union?

    It seems like a few years ago I read on this forum that the GSG was written on the side of a union building and the acronym for that union was JUWES? I can't find that discussion now. Am I wrong?

    Thanks
  • lynn cates
    Commisioner
    • Aug 2009
    • 13841

    #2
    Iwec

    Hello Kwestmo. I believe that Tom Wescott conjectured that it might have been intended as an acronym for the International Workingmen's Educational Club.

    Perhaps that?

    Cheers.
    LC

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    • Monty
      Commissioner
      • Feb 2008
      • 5414

      #3
      Two points,

      Acronyms were a rarity in 1888 Great Britain.

      Acronyms are written in capital letters, the wall writing was 'Juwes' and not 'JUWES' according to all transcriptions and descriptions.....well, almost ;-)

      Monty
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      • Fisherman
        Cadet
        • Feb 2008
        • 23676

        #4
        Lynn:

        "I believe that Tom Wescott conjectured that it might have been intended as an acronym for the International Workingmen's Educational Club."

        Change "Club" for "Society" and you will be there, Lynn! "IWMES", thus - not "IWMEC".

        All the best,
        Fisherman
        Last edited by Fisherman; 02-24-2012, 10:30 AM.

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        • DVV
          Suspended
          • Apr 2008
          • 6014

          #5
          "Juwes" is just a way to utter "Jews" with contempt.
          Just compare what your mouth looks like when you utter "Jews" and "Juwes".
          Quite simple.

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          • lynn cates
            Commisioner
            • Aug 2009
            • 13841

            #6
            acronyms

            Hello Neil. I'm not so sure. Perhaps you are right, but I have come across many in letters/diaries and news articles from the period. My take, for what little it is worth, is roughly the same as today.

            Cheers.
            LC

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            • lynn cates
              Commisioner
              • Aug 2009
              • 13841

              #7
              alternate

              Hello Christer. Never thought of that one. Not sure they referred to themselves that way.

              Do you think there is something in it?

              Cheers.
              LC

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              • lynn cates
                Commisioner
                • Aug 2009
                • 13841

                #8
                drawing out

                Hello David. Not sure what you mean. Is it that "Juwes" draws out the expression?

                Cheers.
                LC

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                • Fisherman
                  Cadet
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 23676

                  #9
                  Lynn:

                  "Never thought of that one. Not sure they referred to themselves that way.

                  Do you think there is something in it?"

                  I think it is slightly ingenious and a good example of thinking outside the box on Toms behalf. But I don´t think myself that the writing on the doorjamb said IWMES, no.

                  All the best,
                  Fisherman

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                  • lynn cates
                    Commisioner
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 13841

                    #10
                    and now

                    Hello Christer. Thanks.

                    Your view, then?

                    Cheers.
                    LC

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                    • Monty
                      Commissioner
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 5414

                      #11
                      In the US Lynn possibly.

                      Victorian Britain likes their long elaborate titles.

                      Monty
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                      • Fisherman
                        Cadet
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 23676

                        #12
                        Monty:

                        "In the US Lynn possibly.

                        Victorian Britain likes their long elaborate titles."

                        Ugh, Wescott ... Take that!

                        The best,
                        Fisherman

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                        • lynn cates
                          Commisioner
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 13841

                          #13
                          colonies, etc.

                          Hello Neil. Can't speak about acronyms in the colonies in that era having never researched it.

                          I referred to Victorian Britain.

                          Cheers.
                          LC

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                          • Robert
                            Commissioner
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 5163

                            #14
                            Grand International Amalgamated Society Of Consolidated Socialist, Communist, And Anarchist Unions And Educational Clubs.

                            (Not enough wall)

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                            • DVV
                              Suspended
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 6014

                              #15
                              Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
                              Hello David. Not sure what you mean. Is it that "Juwes" draws out the expression?

                              Cheers.
                              LC
                              Hi Lynn. Sigh. So simple an experiment. Have you got a mirror somewhere ? Then look at you uttering "Juwes", then "Jews".

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