The meaning of the GSG wording

[Steven Russell]

That's interesting, Maria. Now you mention it, the thing does have a certain musicality to it.

Best wishes,
Steve.

[Monty]

Maria,

I can see why you think that. I feel its simple due to the fact it was written on the jamb and space necessitated its construction.

For what its worth, I personally do not see it as a blame but rather as defiant statement.

Monty

[Rob Clack]

If its a case of stating I'm better than you then why no reference to the murder, Eddowes, Mitre Square etc in the text?

'Nothing'

Rob

[Steven Russell]

Do you mean "Nothing" is a reference to Eddowes, Rob? Reaching a bit, isn't it?

Best wishes,
Steve.

[Monty]

Rob,

Are you stating Jack was either Byfield, Hutt or a City PC?

Or are you having a subtle josh?

If the latter, stick to taking photos mate

Monty

[Rob Clack]

Do you mean "Nothing" is a reference to Eddowes, Rob? Reaching a bit, isn't it?

Best wishes,
Steve.

Probably, it's a possibility and the Graffito makes a bit more sense.

It's an option.

regards

Rob

[Rob Clack]

Rob,

Are you stating Jack was either Byfield, Hutt or a City PC?

Or are you having a subtle josh?

If the latter, stick to taking photos mate

Monty

Just keeping an open mind

Rob

[mariab]

I personally feel an inclusion of any info regarding the murders more striking. The Zodiac did it with Stines shirt. He left the police in no doubt who he was, what he did and what he was saying. Attention was grasped. Yet Jack, if he indeed is the writings author, failed to do that. I see no reasonable reason why. It could have been oh so more effective.

Agree about the Zodiac parallels yet discrepancies. Pertaining to attention grasping in the Ripper case, there are obviously the letters, about which I personally doubt that any of them had their provenance genuinely from the killer (apart perhaps from the “From Hell“ letter and the October 6 letter of “sending your ears to your wife“ fame, but I digress.)

That's interesting, Maria. Now you mention it, the thing does have a certain musicality to it.

It's not just musicality, it's most clearly an iambic 13 syllable verse, just 2 syllables longer than a Shakespearian pentameter! I'm not too good in English versification (vs. French/Italian), but it's a known fact that the Victorians often engaged in rhyming in their natural speech, also in Cockney.
By the by, this verse construction (iambic 13 syllables) is also very close to the French aléxandrin verse, which might even imply a familiarity of the author with the French language (though not necessarily). Hmmm... there is already a suspect documented as possessing multi-lingual capabilities and having resided in France. LOL.
I'm sure Chris George would have things to add here.
And I'm really gonna look if it's a paraphrase of a quote. Though most plausibly, if it were, some Ripperologist would have encountered it already?

Maria,
I can see why you think that. I feel its simple due to the fact it was written on the jamb and space necessitated its construction.

It was written on the jamb and ended up being iambic, hehe.

Interesting that Rob sees “nothing“ as referring to Eddowes. I see “nothing“ as referring to “ruining my evening, with their stupid Club“.

[Monty]

Just keeping an open mind

Rob

That's not the cabal way.

Monty

[Rob Clack]

That's not the cabal way.

Monty

I prefer Cartel myself

Rob

[mariab]

I think I prefer cart (as in Diemshitz'?). By the by, Rob, I hope to manage looking for your Bertillon stuff in Paris soon – if you still want me to.

[Steven Russell]

It's not just musicality, it's most clearly an iambic 13 syllable verse, just 2 syllables longer than a Shakespearian pentameter! I'm not too good in English versification (vs. French/Italian), but it's a known fact that the Victorians often engaged in rhyming in their natural speech, also in Cockney.
By the by, this verse construction (iambic 13 syllables) is also very close to the French aléxandrin verse, which might even imply a familiarity of the author with the French language (though not necessarily). Hmmm... there is already a suspect documented as possessing multi-lingual capabilities and having resided in France. LOL.
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Let's not go overboard here. A lot of us don't think the grafitto has anything to do with the killer. However, I agree with you that it does have a musical quality (which may or may not be accidental). It fits nicely with a hi-hat rhythm - tshh, ta-ta tshh, ta-ta tshh etc. No doubt you will correct me, but doesn't iambic pentameter have ten syllables? Nevertheless, an interesting observation on your part, Maria, and I wish you luck finding a source which may have been paraphrased.

Best wishes,
Steve.

[Rob Clack]

I think I prefer cart (as in Diemshitz'?). By the by, Rob, I hope to manage looking for your Bertillon stuff in Paris soon – if you still want me to.

It's up to you Maria, it would be beneficial to a lot of people.

Rob

[mariab]

I'll most certainly look, possibly even the day after tomorrow. It's just that I'm a bit overwhelmed with different crap.

[Wickerman]

Tom,
I can see the need to dispose of the apron,but I cannot see an urgency to compose and write messages at that particular time.

Exactly, it is sufficient to take the rag to a predominantly 'Jewish' street, and discard it in the doorway of a predominantly 'Jewish' residence.
Assuming, his intent was to throw suspicion on Jews.

Regards, Jon S.