how widespread was graffito in 1888??

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Does anyone know where the phrase 'The writing(s) on the wall' comes from? Is it biblical, or could it have come from here?

Where is 'here'? You mean Whitechapel? As far as I know, the phrase isn't biblical. Or anything to do with the Freemasons.
PC Alfred Long found the lot at 2.55am. He said he'd passed through at 2.20am but hadn't seen anything.

[Crystal]

I meant from this event - the graffito on Goulston Street. As for the Biblical bit, I vaguely remember some OT story that the phrase could have originated from. I'll look it up later and see if I get anywhere.

I don't know anything about the Freemasons, except my grandfather was one and lots of his old City Freemason buddies came to his funeral - nobody knew who any of them were - very mysterious.

[Nothing to see]

I meant from this event - the graffito on Goulston Street. As for the Biblical bit, I vaguely remember some OT story that the phrase could have originated from. I'll look it up later and see if I get anywhere.

I don't know anything about the Freemasons, except my grandfather was one and lots of his old City Freemason buddies came to his funeral - nobody knew who any of them were - very mysterious.

The 'Juwes' is supposedly a Freemason term. There are a lot more people here with far more knowledge than me. I'm sure they will post.

This idea originated with Stephen Knight, as far as I'm aware. Most of the films, including the Johnny Depp 'From Hell' are based on the idea that Jack was a Freemason. I don't think so.

[Mr.Hyde]

Mr.Hyde

Does anyone know where the phrase 'The writing(s) on the wall' comes from? Is it biblical, or could it have come from here?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Writing_on_the_wall

Book of Daniel.
Solomon's Temple is very important to the Freemasons.

Juwes was French for Jews.

Sir William Withey Gull was not a Freemason.If he was it was a very secret Lodge that even the Freemasons don't know of.

[Crystal]

Oh Yeah... Silly Crystal! Would've made a great story, though!

[DVV]

Most of the films, including the Johnny Depp 'From Hell' are based on the idea that Jack was a Freemason. I don't think so.

True.
He was a mere Mason. By his mother.

Amitiés,
David

[DVV]

Juwes was French for Jews.

Certainly not. Ou devrais-je dire: certainement pas.

Amitiés,
David

ps: well spotted for Daniel, chapter 5. I mentioned on another thread, months ago, a song by The Ethiopians, dealing with the subject, its title being "Writing on the wall", and the chorus deriving by the Bible own words: "Mene, Mene..."

[Mr.Hyde]

I stand corrected DVV.
Juive is French for Jewish.

[DVV]

Hi Mr Hyde,
it's actually "Juif" for a man and "Juive" for a woman.

Amitiés,
David

[ianincleveland]

Im pretty certain JTR didnt write the grafitti and if he did he didnt do it while fleeing the Eddowes murder.Think about it hed killed once for certain and quite possibly twice,would he stop to write something on a wall knowing the police could pounce on him any second.i think not.

However disposing of the apron there may not be coincidence.JTR could have written that grafitti beforehand or could have noticed it and dumped the apron there in the hope (rightly it appears at the time) the apron and the grafitti are connected.

the reason i started this thread is theres the corner of a house near me that has a fair amount of grafitti on it,now grafitti isnt that widespread round ehre compared to some places but the side of this house seems to get a lot,the other day i saw some on there i thought was new but it said 2008 underneath it in the same amrker pen indicating it was done last year.now if until a few days ago id not noticed this particular scrawl maybe those in ghouslton Street either didnt notice theres or itd been there a while and they ignored it.

Thanks for the contributions on this thread,all very interesting

[YankeeSergeant]

Writing onthe wall

Does anyone know where the phrase 'The writing(s) on the wall' comes from? Is it biblical, or could it have come from here?

Crystal, the phrase comes from a biblical reference in the book of Daniel concerning writing appearing on a wall in King Nebuchadnezzar's palace if I remember correctly.

[YankeeSergeant]

French

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Writing_on_the_wall
Book of Daniel.
Solomon's Temple is very important to the Freemasons.

Juwes was French for Jews.

Sir William Withey Gull was not a Freemason.If he was it was a very secret Lodge that even the Freemasons don't know of.

Actually it is similar but is spelled "Juif" and unless"Juwes" is Old French I doubt it comes from the French. Kindest regards,

[Sister Hyde]

Actually it is similar but is spelled "Juif" and unless"Juwes" is Old French I doubt it comes from the French. Kindest regards,

Nope, as David mentioned, juive is the feminin form of juif, and i don't remember seeing the word "juwes" appearing in the french languages, not in the old language either.