Why no message in Miller's Court?

[Sam Flynn]

Maybe that's also how he managed the graffito so well in darkness?

Hmmm... John Richardson's claim that he used his knife to chop carrots for his rabbit suddenly sounds a little hollow

[Malcolm X]

Hutch does seem to have an amazing eyesight, doesn't he? Maybe that's also how he managed the graffito so well in darkness?

that's funny too

[John Bennett]

Why no message in Miller's Court?

Why should there be?

There wasn't a message at any of the other murder sites.

[Nothing to see]

Why should there be?

There wasn't a message at any of the other murder sites.

Very good point. There is nothing (to see) absolutely nothing IMO to tie the GSG into Jack. I find it difficult to believe that a man who's just done what's done to Eddowes, and then Kelly, would waste his time writing secret messages in chalk inside doorwells. Jack was pyschotic but he wasn't stupid. If he was, he'd just be another serial killer. Instead, he has his own message board.

[Mitch Rowe]

OK man. This out of left field. You need to provide some evidence to back this up.

What evidence do I need? Im presenting a possibility. And its not out in left field. Its a logical assumption.

[Nothing to see]

What evidence do I need? Im presenting a possibility. And its not out in left field. Its a logical assumption.

The message was meant for Schwartz or Diemschutz? I'm sorry, you're way off target with this.

And that's Stride's murder.

The 'supposed' GLG happened after Eddowes. But that's OK. That didn't have anything to do with Jack either.

[perrymason]

Why should there be?

There wasn't a message at any of the other murder sites.

That is a good point John, however it infers that Jack didnt attempt any communications previously, and the apron section alone potentially disputes that. If it wasnt dropped on his way home, it was deliberately placed. Since almost 70 minutes go by between it being taken and discovered, thats a viable possibility... if the PC didnt see the cloth earlier because it wasnt there yet.

Thats not at the crime scene as you say, but it is.. if not a casual discard which I highly doubt myself, a form of communication by the killer to someone, or anyone.

My answer earlier I think is supported by some of the circumstantial evidence that exists from the night of the Double Event.......he didnt communicate at or about Millers Court because there were no Jews evading blame for anything on that night or at that murder scene.

On the Double Event night, Jews were claiming they had nothing to do with a woman found with her throat slit in their yard.

Cheers

[Mitch Rowe]

The message was meant for Schwartz or Diemschutz? I'm sorry, you're way off target with this.

And that's Stride's murder.

The 'supposed' GLG happened after Eddowes. But that's OK. That didn't have anything to do with Jack either.

BS man calls Schwartz lipski. Its possible BS man is the ripper. MacNaghten says the Ripper was undoubtedly disturbed by some jews. Theres Diemschutz.

So.. It seems that if Jack wrote the GSG its very possible he is referring to one or both of these people.

If im way off target then whomever "connected" the spelling jewes/juwes or however is was spelled to the masons was blind as a bat/deaf and a liar!!

[c.d.]

Of course, there is always the possibility that it was just neighborhood graffiti referring to a neighborhood event.

c.d.

[Mitch Rowe]

Of course, there is always the possibility that it was just neighborhood graffiti referring to a neighborhood event.

c.d.

No doubt. But if JTR is killing Stride and gets interrupted presumably he is frustrated and searches out Eddowes. After killing Eddowes and getting away with it JTR may have felt not only good but he may have reflected during his walk on the Stride affair. If he writes the message as something sort of vengefull against anyone connected with Strides murder he is telling us Stride was important to him for some reason.

[c.d.]

Hi Mitch,

I think the real question is who was the message intended for? If Jack wrote it, he took a chance (even if only a small one) in doing so. Obviously it was important to him. If the message was for the police, then Jack had accomplished his purpose. If on the other hand, the message was for the general public, then I think Jack would have been extremely frustrated that that message did not get out and would have attempted a further communication and what better place to make your point than Miller's Court?

c.d.

[Malcolm X]

The message was meant for Schwartz or Diemschutz? I'm sorry, you're way off target with this.

And that's Stride's murder.

The 'supposed' GLG happened after Eddowes. But that's OK. That didn't have anything to do with Jack either.

how on earth can you say this with such conviction, when you have no proof of this at all and you're earlier post is the same too.

you presume far too much and dismiss far too easily, without providing anything to back up your statements... tell me exactly why you think the GLG has nothing to do with Eddowes...... because i think that's fair dont you!

[Mitch Rowe]

Hi Mitch,

I think the real question is who was the message intended for? If Jack wrote it, he took a chance (even if only a small one) in doing so. Obviously it was important to him. If the message was for the police, then Jack had accomplished his purpose. If on the other hand, the message was for the general public, then I think Jack would have been extremely frustrated that that message did not get out and would have attempted a further communication and what better place to make your point than Miller's Court?

c.d.

Then the message was left for police I suspect. Its possible Schwartz knew Stride and knew more than he was saying. If Stride is somehow "accomidated" by the men around dutfields yard and the Ripper knows this then he might blame them. And it could be even that he feels they provided the situation for himself to lose control. They were to blame. Not him. If they wouldnt have let Stride do the things she did and promoted it he would not have had to kill her.

[The Good Michael]

If I find some graffiti which reads:"The Foreigners are not the men who don't know how to brew beer", I'm going there in the dead of night and setting down a bottle of the swill they brew in Korea. Why would I do this? I didn't write it, but it speaks very deeply to me, and is my message as well.

Cheers,

Mike

[qotsa]

FM, and the Juwes

I know, the freemason theory has apparently been debunked
but there are some things I can't just get passed
I mean I do believe Jack was a psychotic Eastender
but the juwes on Goulston, and the FM (Freemason?) on kelly's wall
And I think it is visible as FM, do lead me to believe JTR had some understanding of the Freemasons and may have been toying with the Police who seemed made up by free masons
after Warren a high ranking free mason resigns the murders stop?
just some things that keep the mason's on the table for me