Why no message in Miller's Court?

[Nothing to see]

Yep!
Re Hutchison-he describes the man of Jewish appearance to be wearing button boots and gaiters-I surmise he meant spats,which would be in keeping with the rest of his attire.Cannot make out boots to be button boots under spats and certain types of gaiters.

Spats? You mean black boots with white around the toes. In London. In 1888?

[The Good Michael]

Frank,

That none of JTR's victims were Jewish may be important. The GSG wasn't written by JTR, but it represented his opinion. That's why he didn't write anything else. This message stood for what he was thinking.


Maybe


Mike

[Nothing to see]

Frank,

That none of JTR's victims were Jewish may be important. The GSG wasn't written by JTR, but it represented his opinion. That's why he didn't write anything else. This message stood for what he was thinking.


Maybe


Mike

OK. Let me get this right. Jack's killed 2 women ( I think Stride was Jack's). He's killed 2 women and he's passed through Goulston St and posted his opinion?

[FrankO]

If the Ripper really wrote the grafitto in Goulston Street, why didn't he write another message at MJK's murder site?
It was inside and he'd had enough time to write one. Has he forgotton to bring his piece of chalk? Was he disappointed about the obliteration of the GSG? Or wasn't he the author of the GSG?

Hi Frank,

Regardless of whether the Ripper wrote the GSG or not, the fact that he didn’t write any message in Mary Jane Kelly’s room lends credence to the notion that communication with public and police wasn’t important to him. I think that if it had been, he’d have brought a piece of chalk or, much more shocking, he could have written in blood.

All the best,
(co-)Frank

[Crystal]

Unless he was so busy enjoying himself with MJK that he didn't think of it until it was too late... I still think it was Hutch, the clever devil.

[Fisherman]

Frank van Oploo writes:

"Regardless of whether the Ripper wrote the GSG or not, the fact that he didn’t write any message in Mary Jane Kelly’s room lends credence to the notion that communication with public and police wasn’t important to him. I think that if it had been, he’d have brought a piece of chalk or, much more shocking, he could have written in blood."

Absolutely, Frank - and all the fuss made about the GSG would have encouraged him.
Then again, if the coppers had deemed the GSG unsignificant, then THAT in it´s turn would have made him very determined to be clearer the next time over.
So whichever way you look at it, the abscense of any message connected to the Kelly killing speaks in favour of dropping the suggestion that the GSG was Ripperwritten.

My regards,
Fisherman

[The Good Michael]

OK. Let me get this right. Jack's killed 2 women ( I think Stride was Jack's). He's killed 2 women and he's passed through Goulston St and posted his opinion?

Read what I wrote, please.

Mike

[Mr.Hyde]

Mr.Hyde

Spats? You mean black boots with white around the toes. In London. In 1888?

No.I mean spats.I've worn both spats and gaiters.
Hutchinson appears to have amazing eyesight at 2am without street lights,and a memory or imagination to match.The horseshoe pin and boots tally more with his previous occupation as a groom than what he is likely to have seen that morning.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spats

[Crystal]

No.I mean spats.I've worn both spats and gaiters.
Hutchinson appears to have amazing eyesight at 2am without street lights,and a memory or imagination to match.The horseshoe pin and boots tally more with his previous occupation as a groom than what he is likely to have seen that morning.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spats

Hutch does seem to have an amazing eyesight, doesn't he? Maybe that's also how he managed the graffito so well in darkness?

[FrankO]

So whichever way you look at it, the abscense of any message connected to the Kelly killing speaks in favour of dropping the suggestion that the GSG was Ripperwritten.

Hi Fisherman!

Perhaps it shouldn’t be dropped altogether. The Ripper may have written the GSG, but if he did, he just did it because it seemed like a good idea at the time, not because general communication with public or police was actually important to him. If getting a specific message across was important to him on 30 September, he not only did a rather bad job, but it must also have lost its importance by the time he killed MJK.

The best, Fisherman!
Frank

[Crystal]

Hi Fisherman!

Perhaps it shouldn’t be dropped altogether. The Ripper may have written the GSG, but if he did, he just did it because it seemed like a good idea at the time, not because general communication with public or police was actually important to him. If getting a specific message across was important to him on 30 September, he not only did a rather bad job, but it must also have lost its importance by the time he killed MJK.

The best, Fisherman!
Frank

Look, I'm telling you, it was that Hutchinson - he did a bad job so that everyone would think the killer (him) was a semi-literate fool and so that he could point the finger at the Jews at the same time! Genius! Hmm..wonder if he did the Lusk letter as well? Yes, it makes perfect sense..

[Fisherman]

Frank van Oploo writes:

"Perhaps it shouldn’t be dropped altogether."

I don´t, actually. In my piece on Fleming in Ripperologist, I keep the door ajar, and I think we must. I just think, just like you, that the abscense of any communication in Millers Court points away from the Ripper trying his hands at literature.

The best,
Fisherman

[Fisherman]

Crystal writes:

"wonder if he did the Lusk letter as well? Yes, it makes perfect sense.."

Well, Crystal, since they were both written in a neat, round schoolboys hand, you would probably be right on the button here...

I like your sense of humour! I think...?

The best,
Fisherman

[perrymason]

There is what I believe is a very reasonable explanation for why he wouldnt write in chalk or blood for that matter yet again on November 9th if he did write the GSG the Double Event Night....

No Jews were attempting to evade blame for the murder on November 9th,... so whats to write about?

If Jack didnt kill Liz but learned of it on route home after Mitre, then that might explain the delay, if it was a delay, in the placing of the apron section until almost 2:45am or thereabouts...he might have dropped off the "take" from Mitre and picked up chalk....and if he wrote the GSG, it would then be to pass the blame for Liz's death back on whom it likely belonged in his opinion...Jews at the Club on Berner Street.

And if that is right, it still doesnt mean the killer was Anti-Semetic. In his mind it might just be about taking responsibility for your own actions....not about Judaism.

I know its hard for some to accept...but I could see a killer getting PO'd if someone was using his notoriety and at large status, to pass the buck on their own despicable acts.

Best regards all.

[Crystal]

Crystal writes:

"wonder if he did the Lusk letter as well? Yes, it makes perfect sense.."

Well, Crystal, since they were both written in a neat, round schoolboys hand, you would probably be right on the button here...

I like your sense of humour! I think...?

The best,
Fisherman

Why, thank you Fisherman! Although I prefer to think of it as particularly clever irony....