The GOGMAGOG-letter

[David Orsam]

Hello David,

Already seems pretty decisive to me. I understand that you are not yet in a position to disclose additional data, illustrating the extent to which your theory is synchronized with Pierre's, however, can you confirm that you have submitted any provisional conclusions to a probability analysis, in order to scientifically assess the likelihood that you may be wrong?

Yes John, I confirm that I have carried out a full probability analysis and the likelihood that I am wrong is very low; in fact 4.28% to be precise. (That figure is subject to a small margin of error of plus or minus 95.72%.) In metaphorical terms, this is about as good as it is possible to get.

[Michael W Richards]

One could surely learn a lot from the Zodiac case. But we can not with a very high certainty generalize from that case to this one. Only discuss hypotheses.

Regards Pierre

There is no similarity between letters known to have been sent by a modern day killer and some baseless theory about 1 of thousands of letters sent to the police and press during the Ripper scare.

The reasonable explanation as to why this one letter should be considered as being penned by the so-called Ripper is absent.

[John G]

Okay I will try and keep the suspense going for the rest of the year. Hopefully people will ask me questions about my theory which I will refuse to answer so that I can sit here thinking "I know something you don't know".

Hello David,

Already seems pretty decisive to me. I understand that you are not yet in a position to disclose additional data, illustrating the extent to which your theory is synchronized with Pierre's, however, can you confirm that you have submitted any provisional conclusions to a probability analysis, in order to scientifically assess the likelihood that you may be wrong?

[David Orsam]

Steady now David don't post the additional data too quickly you're supposed to drag things out like Pierre does.

Okay I will try and keep the suspense going for the rest of the year. Hopefully people will ask me questions about my theory which I will refuse to answer so that I can sit here thinking "I know something you don't know".

[John Wheat]

I guess you may be wondering how this all fits in with Pierre's theory of the murderer being a police officer but I have some additional data which explains this too and will post it in due course.

Steady now David don't post the additional data too quickly you're supposed to drag things out like Pierre does.

[David Orsam]

I'm sad to see people in this thread belittling Pierre and trying to destroy his theory. For I too was like them once but then I opened my mind to the New Discourse and let Pierre into my heart. Suddenly what had previously seemed to be random and unconnected pieces of information formed themselves into shapes and patterns where I could see with crystal clarity who murdered all those poor women. I am converted to Pierre's new technique of comparative textual analysis and want to share my discoveries with you all.

I have already revealed the secret of Edward Fairfield who wrote to the Times shortly before the Double Event and now I have found he wrote to the same newspaper a week later by way of letter published in the Times of 9 October 1888. He took a bit of a risk because he signed the letter "R.C. Bedford, Bishop Suffragan of the East End", who well have been a real person, but he seems to have got away with it. This letter appears below.

We have all the familiar elements. The usual start: "Sir, - will you kindly allow me...". Then we have the recommendations: "What is needed is a home where washing and other work could be done...", followed by the inevitable ironic prediction of future events: "Two thousand pounds would enable the experiment to be tried, and I have no doubt of its being a success." Ha! ha! Very ironic.

But in addition to the standard features, this letter contains an obvious clue to the police showing how stupid they were for missing it. For "Bishop Bedford" a.k.a. Edward Fairfield, stated:

"I know full well the circumstances of these poor creatures, and have been constantly among them by day and by night".

He's clearly having a laugh. He might as well just have said he has been sleeping with and murdering prostitutes for that is what he obviously meant.

And then look:

"If intrusted with the means to provide such a home I would gladly undertake the responsibility of conducting it".

Of course he would! Jack the Ripper offering a home to the prostitutes of Whitechapel!!! You couldn't make it up.

I guess you may be wondering how this all fits in with Pierre's theory of the murderer being a police officer but I have some additional data which explains this too and will post it in due course.

[Mayerling]

Hi Steve,

Given that the Poster has decided to post the same post twice, let us be polite and answer it with the respect it deserves

Point 1

A large percentage of letters to Newspapers both in 1888 and today start with either "Sir" or "Dear Sir" the sentences which follow are also a common form used in many letters, they are introducing the ideas in the letter.

SINCE THAT POSTER CHOSE TO POST A "YOU TUBE" VIDEO OF THE MONTY PYTHON GROUP SINGING A TYPICALLY ODD SONG ABOUT FISH (WHICH IS THE TYPE IN THE SEA OR RIVERS - NOT A MURDERER LIKE WILLIAM OR ALBERT FISH) ON ANOTHER THREAD IN THE SOCIAL CHAT SECTION, HE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN THAT THERE WAS A RUNNING JOKE ON THEIR TELEVISION SHOW OF LETTERS COMPLAINING OF THEIR SKITS BEING SENT TO THE NEWSPAPERS, ALL BEGINNING WITH "DEAR SIR", WITH SOME GRUFF VOICE SOUNDING VERY AUTHORITARIAN RECITING THE CONTENTS. NOT METAPHORICALLY SPEAKING

Jeff

[GUT]

Given that the Poster has decided to post the same post twice, let us be polite and answer it with the respect it deserves

Point 1

A large percentage of letters to Newspapers both in 1888 and today start with either "Sir" or "Dear Sir" the sentences which follow are also a common form used in many letters, they are introducing the ideas in the letter.

There is therefore nothing out of the ordinary in such statements that would allow one to suggest that they are from the same writer.

Point 2

Most letters to a paper will make a recommendation of some sort. that is the point of writing a letter to a paper. To put across a point of view and make suggestions.


Point 3

There is nothing ironic in those lines, it is just the posters view, his opinion, a creative imagination.


There appears to be nothing connecting these two letters at all, other than they are letters to Newspapers.
The poster insists on there is, however the explanation given fails to add any substance to that view.

I suspect that even the letters that arrived headed "Listen slurry face" we're probably printed "Dear Sir" or similar.

And as you say why write at all if not suggesting something.

But just the sort of Horse Twaddle we've come to expect.

[GUT]

I'm a detective now?! I still know nothing! I'm still wandering?? The true killer probably won't be known for another 100 years.

Congratulations on your promotion.

[GUT]

This means....0000000. How does P research contribute In anyway to a meaningful historiographical discourse?? Really? By which historical methodology in existence since the Reformation or whatever?

It doesn't.

[Elamarna]

Hi Steve, I hope you are well.

Sure. I can explain it to you.

The writer is using the same structure in both letters.

GML = GOGMAGOG-letter. OSL = Old Subscriber letter.

1.
Addressing “SIR”, asking him to let him/allow him to speak:

GML SIR, - Let me, in the interest of “the children”,
OSL SIR, - Allow me, through your valuable paper,

2.
Giving recommendations:

GML say a few words
OSL recommend

3.
Ironically predicting future events given that they take his advice:

GML I can promise them a pleasant one
OSL and then, I think, this wholesale murderer, will be caught

Regards, Pierre

Given that the Poster has decided to post the same post twice, let us be polite and answer it with the respect it deserves

Point 1

A large percentage of letters to Newspapers both in 1888 and today start with either "Sir" or "Dear Sir" the sentences which follow are also a common form used in many letters, they are introducing the ideas in the letter.

There is therefore nothing out of the ordinary in such statements that would allow one to suggest that they are from the same writer.

Point 2

Most letters to a paper will make a recommendation of some sort. that is the point of writing a letter to a paper. To put across a point of view and make suggestions.


Point 3

There is nothing ironic in those lines, it is just the posters view, his opinion, a creative imagination.


There appears to be nothing connecting these two letters at all, other than they are letters to Newspapers.
The poster insists on there is, however the explanation given fails to add any substance to that view.

[Rosemary]

Holy ****

I'm a detective now?! I still know nothing! I'm still wandering?? The true killer probably won't be known for another 100 years.

[Rosemary]

What you always wanted to know about history but we're etc

This means....0000000. How does P research contribute In anyway to a meaningful historiographical discourse?? Really? By which historical methodology in existence since the Reformation or whatever?

[DJA]

Interesting letter.

Almost a prequel to WE Gladstone's.

The Vestries were attempting to upgrade the sewerage and water supplies.
Often hampered by stupid laws.

[David Orsam]

I think I have found him

Following on from Pierre's brilliant explanation of the similarity in structure of the GM and OS letters as set out above, I have used his forensic technique of textual comparison and believe I have identified the author of both letters!!!!

I'm so excited I can hardly breathe. There can hardly be any doubt about it.

It was none other than Mr Edward Fairfield, a clerk working in the Colonial Office, of 64 South Eaton Place in South-West London.

See the below letter from Mr Fairfield, published in the Times of 1 October 1888 - which I shall refer to as the EFL letter - which follows the exact same structure as identified for us by Pierre in the GM and OS letters.

1. Addressing “SIR”, asking him to let him/allow him to speak:

The EFL Letter begins:

"Sir, - Will you allow me to ask a question..."

Same as the GM and OS letters (the lower case of "Sir" can be explained by the Times' house style).

2. Giving recommendations:

EFL - Don't disperse the residents of Dorset St and Flower and Dean St.

3. Ironically predicting future events given that they take his advice:

EFL - "If she is systematically dispersed, two results will follow....."

It may be noted that Mr Fairfield seems to be obsessed by prostitutes in Whitechapel and, moreover, in referring to Dorset Street, his letter contains the name of the exact street in which the murder of Mary Jane Kelly would occur. More than this, in referring to Flower and Dean Street, it also contains the name of the street in which Elizabeth Stride lived!

Being published in the Times of Monday 1 October, it is likely that the letter was written on Saturday 29 October, within hours of the Double Event. Did Fairfield in his state of righteous indignation and excitement feel the need to go out and murder two women in Whitechapel immediately after having dashed off his letter to the editor of the Times?

Have I not only found GOGMAGOG and AN OLD SUBSCRIBER but also none other than the Ripper himself???