The GOGMAGOG-letter

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  • Pierre
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    Originally posted by RavenDarkendale View Post
    The Ripper must have reincarnated as The Zodiac Killer, since according to this thread, anyhoo, they both used coded messages and they both got away with their crimes!
    One could surely learn a lot from the Zodiac case. But we can not with a very high certainty generalize from that case to this one. Only discuss hypotheses.

    Regards Pierre

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  • Pierre
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    Originally posted by Elamarna View Post
    "It has the same structure as the GOGMAGOG-letter."


    Looking at the image of the letter, could someone explain to me the above statement, I honestly do not see the similarity

    Steve
    Hi Steve, I hope you are well.

    Sure. I can explain it to you.

    The writer is using the same structure in both letters.

    GML = GOGMAGOG-letter. OSL = Old Subscriber letter.

    1.
    Addressing “SIR”, asking him to let him/allow him to speak:

    GML SIR, - Let me, in the interest of “the children”,
    OSL SIR, - Allow me, through your valuable paper,

    2.
    Giving recommendations:

    GML say a few words
    OSL recommend

    3.
    Ironically predicting future events given that they take his advice:

    GML I can promise them a pleasant one
    OSL and then, I think, this wholesale murderer, will be caught


    Regards, Pierre

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  • Pierre
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    Originally posted by GUT View Post
    They both use words made up of letters.
    HI GUT,

    The writer is using the same structure in both letters.

    GML = GOGMAGOG-letter. OSL = Old Subscriber letter.

    1.
    Addressing “SIR”, asking him to let him/allow him to speak:

    GML SIR, - Let me, in the interest of “the children”,
    OSL SIR, - Allow me, through your valuable paper,

    2.
    Giving recommendations:

    GML say a few words
    OSL recommend

    3.
    Ironically predicting future events given that they take his advice:

    GML I can promise them a pleasant one
    OSL and then, I think, this wholesale murderer, will be caught



    Regards, Pierre
    Last edited by Pierre; 01-08-2016, 01:01 PM.

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  • John Wheat
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    What has the GOGMAGOG letter got to do with the Ripper? Answer **** all.

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  • RavenDarkendale
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    The Ripper must have reincarnated as The Zodiac Killer, since according to this thread, anyhoo, they both used coded messages and they both got away with their crimes!

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  • GUT
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    Originally posted by Rosella View Post
    'Old Subscriber' is using a pseudonym, just like Jack. Pierre obviously noticed this glaring similarity. God knows how many of these 'I'm Jack and I know all about these murders' were sent by nutters to provincial newspapers, both large and small. It must have been such a complete irritant. A bit like...
    Trolliere?

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  • Rosella
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    'Old Subscriber' is using a pseudonym, just like Jack. Pierre obviously noticed this glaring similarity. God knows how many of these 'I'm Jack and I know all about these murders' were sent by nutters to provincial newspapers, both large and small. It must have been such a complete irritant. A bit like...

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  • GUT
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    Originally posted by Elamarna View Post
    "It has the same structure as the GOGMAGOG-letter."


    Looking at the image of the letter, could someone explain to me the above statement, I honestly do not see the similarity

    Steve
    They both use words made up of letters.

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  • GUT
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    Originally posted by John Wheat View Post
    So what?

    Cheers John
    My exact response.

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  • Elamarna
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    it is so obvious when you point it out.

    i hang my head in shame

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  • David Orsam
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    Originally posted by Elamarna View Post
    "It has the same structure as the GOGMAGOG-letter."

    Looking at the image of the letter, could someone explain to me the above statement, I honestly do not see the similarity
    Come on Steve, they are both letters to an editor of a newspaper which both start, quite spookily:

    "SIR,-"

    Note that they both have a comma after the word "SIR" and then a hyphen. It's uncanny.

    Both of the letters contain some text written in the English language (albeit one is partly in metaphorical English) below which is a name in capitals which (and this is the key bit) is not the real name of the author.

    We can ignore the fact that GOGMAGOG rounds off his letter "I am, Sir, your obedient servant" whereas AN OLD SUBSCRIBER does not but this was an obvious attempt to throw police off the scent, as was the decision to write to the editor of a newspaper in Hull, some 150 miles from London.

    You should now be satisfied that the structural similarities between the two letters are remarkable and do not only exist in Pierre's imagination. Once I point out to you that in the GOGMAGOG letter the author wraps some rarely used quotation marks around the phrase "the children" while AN OLD SUBSCRIBER uses the very same technique with the phrase "Jack the Ripper", you will, I am sure, be red with embarrassment that you even had to ask the question in the first place.

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  • Elamarna
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    "It has the same structure as the GOGMAGOG-letter."


    Looking at the image of the letter, could someone explain to me the above statement, I honestly do not see the similarity

    Steve

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  • John Wheat
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    Originally posted by Pierre View Post
    Hi,

    I just found this letter in the Hull Daily Mail (11th June 1889). It has the same structure as the GOGMAGOG-letter.

    Regards, Pierre
    So what?

    Cheers John

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  • Pierre
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    A letter

    Hi,

    I just found this letter in the Hull Daily Mail (11th June 1889). It has the same structure as the GOGMAGOG-letter.

    Regards, Pierre
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  • GUT
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    Originally posted by curious4 View Post
    Yesterday upon this site
    I spied a troll whose words were - trite
    I saw him there again today,
    I wish that troll would go away!

    Actually I don't really. He certainly livens things up!

    Happy New Year to all!

    Best wishes
    C4
    Youse a poemtress.

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