From Hell Letter DECODED

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  • richardnunweek
    Superintendent
    • Feb 2008
    • 2420

    #16
    I miss Pierre,kept you on the edge of your seat.
    Regards Richard.

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    • Kattrup
      Sergeant
      • Mar 2016
      • 938

      #17
      Originally posted by The Baron View Post

      This is the greatest problem.

      I am not sure if anyone on this board believes all those three letters were written by the Whitechapel murderer.


      The Baron

      I’m not sure what you mean is the greatest problem, but I just told you that I believe them to be genuine. Perhaps you meant “anyone else on this board”?

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      • Abby Normal
        Commissioner
        • Jun 2010
        • 11903

        #18
        Originally posted by Kattrup View Post

        I’m not sure what you mean is the greatest problem, but I just told you that I believe them to be genuine. Perhaps you meant “anyone else on this board”?
        I too believe more likely than not Dearboss/saucy jack and from hell were from the ripper.
        "Is all that we see or seem
        but a dream within a dream?"

        -Edgar Allan Poe


        "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
        quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

        -Frederick G. Abberline

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        • The Baron
          Inspector
          • Feb 2019
          • 1490

          #19
          Yes.. every one except Kattrup and Abby!


          The Baron

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          • Ginger
            Sergeant
            • Jan 2012
            • 780

            #20
            I think "From Hell" was probably the Ripper, although I think it was written "in character", as it were, not so much as to try and fool anyone, as it was just that he was enjoying his public persona and wanted to play the part.
            - Ginger

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            • richardnunweek
              Superintendent
              • Feb 2008
              • 2420

              #21
              Hi,
              I would say the killer did not have any mental state to write letters.even so cryptic ones,
              Regards Richard.

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              • Ginger
                Sergeant
                • Jan 2012
                • 780

                #22
                Originally posted by richardnunweek View Post
                Hi,
                I would say the killer did not have any mental state to write letters.even so cryptic ones,
                Regards Richard.
                At the risk of straying somewhat from the subject, I think the Ripper had to be mentally composed, at least most of the time. He managed to entice his victims into going with him. What he was like immediately after a murder may well be another story.
                - Ginger

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                • barnflatwyngarde
                  Inspector
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 1141

                  #23
                  Originally posted by richardnunweek View Post
                  I miss Pierre,kept you on the edge of your seat.
                  Regards Richard.
                  Like piles?

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                  • Herlock Sholmes
                    Commissioner
                    • May 2017
                    • 21828

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Kattrup View Post
                    Go for it, Rookie D.

                    I believe it’s extremely unlikely that the letters contain any kind of coded messages. But I look forward to your presentation.

                    I don’t believe From Hell was from JtR, but I do believe the Dear Boss, Saucy Jack and Moab and Midian letters were.
                    Hi Kattrup

                    Ive never been entirely convinced by the letters although I don’t entirely rule them out either but I’ve always felt that the Moab and Midian letter has a ring of genuineness about it. Whether it was from the ripper or not I get the impression that the writer “wasn't a well man” rather than simply a hoaxer.
                    Regards

                    Sir Herlock Sholmes.

                    “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

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                    • c.d.
                      Commissioner
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 6555

                      #25
                      "EVERYONE disagrees about almost EVERYTHING."

                      I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to disagree with that statement.

                      c.d.

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                      • Busy Beaver
                        Detective
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 267

                        #26
                        I think the real Ripper was too busy murdering and avoiding detection, than to be sitting at a table writing hoax letters. I reckon he got more of a thrill when he didn't get caught and that spurned him to keep going until he either did die, went to prison for something possibly unrelated to the killings, or perhaps a sanatorium or a mental hospital. There is every the possibility, the Ripper might not have been able to read and or write.

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                        • Sam Flynn
                          Casebook Supporter
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 13322

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Busy Beaver View Post
                          I think the real Ripper was too busy murdering and avoiding detection, than to be sitting at a table writing hoax letters.
                          That might explain why it took so long before the letters started to arrive in any great numbers Fully five murders (Tabram, Nichols, Chapman, Stride, Eddowes) had been committed before "Dear Boss" was published in the papers; in fact, "Dear Boss" itself was only written at the end of September, and the "Saucy Jack" postcard on the same day as, or the day after, the Double Event. Wouldn't the real killer have started gloating sooner?
                          Kind regards, Sam Flynn

                          "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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                          • Harry D
                            *
                            • May 2014
                            • 3360

                            #28
                            Originally posted by richardnunweek View Post
                            I miss Pierre,kept you on the edge of your seat.
                            Regards Richard.
                            End of your tether more like.

                            Good riddance.

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                            • Herlock Sholmes
                              Commissioner
                              • May 2017
                              • 21828

                              #29
                              Originally posted by richardnunweek View Post
                              I miss Pierre,kept you on the edge of your seat.
                              Regards Richard.
                              Me too
                              Regards

                              Sir Herlock Sholmes.

                              “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

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                              • Herlock Sholmes
                                Commissioner
                                • May 2017
                                • 21828

                                #30
                                Originally posted by c.d. View Post
                                "EVERYONE disagrees about almost EVERYTHING."

                                I'm sorry, but I'm going to have to disagree with that statement.

                                c.d.
                                You’re wrong c.d.
                                Regards

                                Sir Herlock Sholmes.

                                “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

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