If the 'Dear Boss' letter is a hoax...

[Ozzy]

I think some people are just full of bullshit.

I was thinking full of hubris myself.

[Geddy2112]

...nothing you have said on this forum makes sense does it?

Fixed it for you Sir...

[kjab3112]

The shortest route from Henriques (Berner) Street to Mitre Square passes along what is now St Botolph St (North of the Aldgate and St Botolph without) to Duke Place and St James' Passage. The Minories would be a diversion. Of course Ludwig did try to attack a woman in The Minories and was cleared due to being still imprisoned at the time of the double event.

[John Wheat]

I think some people are just full of bullshit.

[Elamarna]

Methinks, Steve, it's just more faux academic jargon, and a resort to ambiguity to cloak, albeit not too successfully, a complete lack of ideas on how to answer your posts.

Some excellent posts, by the way: pity Pierre seems so reluctant to properly address them!

John

I think you may be right.

I wish he would try and reply seriously, and if wrong admit it.

To do as he has today and claim he has no position to defend is ..... well unbelievable.



Thanks for the kind comments, just trying to get answers.

[GUT]

Methinks, Steve, it's just more faux academic jargon, and a resort to ambiguity to cloak, albeit not too successfully, a complete lack of ideas on how to answer your posts.

Some excellent posts, by the way: pity Pierre seems so reluctant to properly address them!

I don't think he is reluctant to answer them










Just unable to.

[John G]

There is no "external source" here Pierre. That is perfectly clear. You always fall back on pretending that you have more information that you can't reveal, once your arguments have collapsed.

Maybe he's buried the unreaveled information in a secret vault somewhere in the Swiss Alps and he can't remember the location. His poor sense of geography would seem to lend support to this theory!

[John G]

Here we go again, unknown secret source.

External to what Pierre?



Steve

Methinks, Steve, it's just more faux academic jargon, and a resort to ambiguity to cloak, albeit not too successfully, a complete lack of ideas on how to answer your posts.

Some excellent posts, by the way: pity Pierre seems so reluctant to properly address them!

[David Orsam]

It is no guess. There is an external source also.

There is no "external source" here Pierre. That is perfectly clear. You always fall back on pretending that you have more information that you can't reveal, once your arguments have collapsed.

[Elamarna]

It is no guess. There is an external source also.

Here we go again, unknown secret source.

External to what Pierre?



Steve

[John G]

The letter is normative. And the crime is close to the norm.

In what context?

[Elamarna]

I claimed that The Minories was not just a street. It was an ancient parish.

you posted:

" The Minories was an old parish covering both the murder sites."


That however is not true, and you are still failing to address the issue.

He will be at work on them. What does this mean? Does it mean the isolated act of cutting them? Or does it mean the modus operandi including finding them?

Pierre,

That is not what was posted, you are trying to change the debate again.

The post said:


"The Ripper Letter is using a metaphorical language. It gives the information that the killer will strike on September 30th in "the Minories" were he will kill two women. The Minories was an old parish covering both the murder sites."


I assume "were" is typo for "where" you said he would kill two women in the minories, NOT True obviously.

Bla bla bla.

But it is true Pierre, you obviously did not bother to check.

Actually a childish response

It is a fact.

What is?

That the sites are nearby?

Of course they are, it is a very small geographical area.

Just as a matter of interest it is possible to get from Berner Street to Mitre Square without going near to the Minories, be that road or parish.




However you claimed:

"The Ripper Letter is using a metaphorical language. It gives the information that the killer will strike on September 30th in "the Minories" were he will kill two women. The Minories was an old parish covering both the murder sites."





You were very specific in your post, however that is not what happened.

The FACT is that you statement was wrong on just about every point.


Steve

[David Orsam]

The letter is normative. And the crime is close to the norm.

You seem have resorted to your old trick of posting gibberish when you have nothing sensible to say.

It doesn't matter whether the crime is "close to the norm". What matters for this thread is whether the victims could have been saved if the letter had been taken seriously.

Given that the date of any proposed murders is not stated in the letter (even if that letter was written in 1888), the time of the murders is wrong, the location of the murders is wrong, how could either of the victims possibly have been saved if the letter had been taken seriously?

[David Orsam]

It included his MO. That is why it matters.

You seem to have forgotten what this thread is about Pierre. It's not about whether the killer wrote the Minories letter or what the MO of the killer was. It's about whether the Minories letter led to the recipient of that letter to create the 'Dear Boss" letter.

If there were no murders in the Minories nothing you have said in this thread makes sense does it?

[David Orsam]

Have I used the word "prevent"?

I'm happy to quote your exact words Pierre:

"But since the letter also contained a warning, which could have saved the victims from being murdered if taken seriously, they could not publish the letter in itīs original so everyone could see that they had simply neglected the warning.

Therefore they wrote a new letter were they kept the name Jack the Ripper and changed the contents so it would have a high news value. By doing this no one would know that the Central News Agency recieved a letter with a warning and with the right time and place of the murders before the murders were committed.

If the Central News Agency had given the letter to the police and they had taken it seriously, they could have increased the police surveillance in the Minories that night and Stride and Eddowes might have been saved."

If you are denying the word "prevent", please explain how Stride and Eddowes could have been "saved" without the murders having been prevented.