Use of "Buckled" To Denote Arrest

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  • Beowulf
    Sergeant
    • Jan 2012
    • 537

    #31
    Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
    Hello Beowulf. Ah! a question to be asked.

    What was the biggest news of that autumn--perhaps even bigger than the ripper?

    Cheers.
    LC
    For the life of me, I cannot think of the answer to this and to what I now regard as a riddle

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    • lynn cates
      Commisioner
      • Aug 2009
      • 13841

      #32
      Parnell

      Hello Beowulf. A: The Parnell Commission hearings.

      Cheers.
      LC

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      • Supe
        Sergeant
        • Feb 2008
        • 955

        #33
        Lynn,


        You may tout the Commission all you wish, but as Jennifer Pegg (Shelden) and I wrote in Rip in 2008: Some Ripperologists are fond of quoting the movie line attributed to Jack the Ripper ”I gave birth to the 20th Century”, but truly William McGregor has a better claim on that bit of fame.

        And what did that canny Scot do? He created the English Football League, whose first games were played while police were still searching the backyards of Hanbury Street.

        Don.
        "To expose [the Senator] is rather like performing acts of charity among the deserving poor; it needs to be done and it makes one feel good, but it does nothing to end the problem."

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        • ChrisGeorge
          Chief Inspector
          • Apr 2008
          • 1625

          #34
          Originally posted by Supe View Post
          I think we underestimate the speed with which slang terms cross the Atlantic -- in both directions. This is particularly so when it is borne in mind that lexicographers seek the first usages of words in print and many words -- especially those of slang -- exist for a long time among the barely literate classes before gaining published currency.

          In an article I wrote several years ago I pointed how, just a short time after the first "Jack the Ripper" letter an elderly New York spinster actually found a man under her bed during her ritual nightly check and went running into the street, in nightgown, screaming "Jack the Ripper, Jack the Ripper!!"

          Granted, Jackie and his depredations were a special case, but I would still suggest slang terms and catch phrases crossed the Atlantic more rapidly than some academics would allow.

          Don.
          Hi Don et al.

          As we know, the American press was carrying articles from the British press on the Whitechapel murders and other British news along with pieces written by their correspondents, and the British press was carrying American news, so there had to be some cross-pollination in terms of British and American expressions being picked up by the consumers of newsprint in both countries.

          All the best

          Chris
          Christopher T. George
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          • lynn cates
            Commisioner
            • Aug 2009
            • 13841

            #35
            oops!

            Hello Don. I stand corrected. Sport first. (heh-heh)

            Cheers.
            LC

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            • lynn cates
              Commisioner
              • Aug 2009
              • 13841

              #36
              bilingual

              Hello Chris. Doubtless. More and more people on both sides the pond are becoming bilingual.

              Cheers.
              LC

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              • Beowulf
                Sergeant
                • Jan 2012
                • 537

                #37
                Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
                Hello Beowulf. A: The Parnell Commission hearings.

                Cheers.
                LC
                Is this something known by all English schoolkids? Or is it something historians, especially Ripper historians, are well aquainted with?

                I would have never guessed that in a millionbillion years, because I've NEVER heard of it.

                But it does make for a fascinating addition to that time and all it's historical references, and I'll have to read up on it, (as I have already started to) and see how it fit into the minds of the population of the time.

                So Buckled and Boss could take on an almost insidious meaning.

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                • lynn cates
                  Commisioner
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 13841

                  #38
                  brandy

                  Hello Beowulf. Well, very familiar to all news readers at that date. In fact, a certain brandy company used it as a humourous intro for their cherry brandy.

                  Cheers.
                  LC

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                  • Sherlock Holmes
                    Detective
                    • Sep 2012
                    • 140

                    #39
                    It is my belief that the "Dear Boss" letter was intended for the boss of Scotland Yard. I believe he wanted to get caught.
                    Mr Holmes

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                    • Stewart P Evans
                      Superintendent
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 2994

                      #40
                      Buckled

                      From my Victorian dictionary of slang -

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                      Treat me gently I'm a newbie.

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                      • Sherlock Holmes
                        Detective
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 140

                        #41
                        The "Dear Boss" letter uses the word "buckled"
                        quote: "I am down on whores and I shan’t quit ripping them till I do get buckled".
                        I believe this was a challenge to the efficiency of the Yard and it's investigation The Ripper was challenging the police to catch him.
                        Mr Holmes

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                        • Outlaw
                          Cadet
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 26

                          #42
                          Double post - Sorry

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                          • Outlaw
                            Cadet
                            • Sep 2014
                            • 26

                            #43
                            Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
                            Hello Beowulf. One idea I've played with is to emulate NOT just an American but an IRISH American. Bit of a stretch, however.

                            Cheers.
                            LC
                            My thoughts exactly

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                            • Outlaw
                              Cadet
                              • Sep 2014
                              • 26

                              #44
                              Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
                              Hello Beowulf. A: The Parnell Commission hearings.

                              Cheers.
                              LC
                              Again....my thoughts exactly..

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                              • Rosella
                                Chief Inspector
                                • Sep 2014
                                • 1542

                                #45
                                Is this an attempt then by the writer to implicate the Irish Republican Brotherhood, and their financial supporters and operatives in the US, in this series of murders, plus hopefully smear Parnell at the same time?

                                A young, politically minded journalist as writer, perhaps?

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