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  • lynn cates
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    do it yourself examiners

    Hello Maria. You mean the forensics examiners? You're probably right. We'll do it ourselves.

    Were you on the boards during the Iremonger/Leander conundrum? I think everyone agreed to disagree.

    Good luck with work and research.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • TradeName
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    Another account of Hurlbert and the Pigott letter:

    Otago Daily Times , Issue 9135, 6 June 1891, Page 4

    THEATRICAL BREACH OF PROMISE CASE

    But it was not until after The Times published the famous “fac-simile letter” that Hurlbert lit upon that tide in his affairs which, taken at the flood, led on to fortune. When the Royal Commission was appointed and rumours began to fly about that the fac-simile letter and its fellows were clumsy forgeries, the unionists were rescued from despair by the news that Mr. Hurlbert could testify to the genuineness of the original letter, because he bad seen it In New York in the hands of P. J. Sheridan, to whom it had been, he said, addressed. Hurlbert at once became the rage. As the months of suspense wore on, whenever a distinguished unionist felt low he would ask Hurlbert to dinner, and make up a party to meet him. At table Hurlbert would repeat to an awe-struck audience his story with wonderful detail and dramatic effect, bringing before them the picture of the ill-lit, shabby flat, high up in a down-town house, half a dozen grimy Milesians sitting around, the arch-conspirator Sheridan unlocking a cabinet, and bringing forth the well-worn document, which, as he held it to the candle, the others, for the fiftieth time, greedily devoured with their eyes. After the suicide of Pigott, Hurlbert, so far from being eclipsed, was more in request than ever. He stuck gallantly to his guns, and his gay assurance was about the only consolation which the friends of The Times could boast at that trying juncture. When nothing else was discussed but ”the letter,” a unionist, driven to his last ditch, would exclaim, “But Hurlbert was prepared to swear the letter was genuine.” “Why didn’t he?“ would be the fierce retort of the triumphant Separatist. Why, indeed? Well, for that many reasons wore found--Hurlbert’s fear of making his wife nervous by drawing fire from the Nationalists, and so on. Meanwhile Hurlbert went on triumphantly.

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  • mariab
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    Lynn, for me this is the part I truly consider as money thrown down the drain. If you wish me to help out, I can try, I'm used to be examining handwritings (for both text and music) at least weekly, if not daily.
    By the by, still working with things in Lyon (per email now) pertaining to MJK pics, and just finished with both the Greek and the US bureaucracy for the time being (until next week). But some French bureaucracy and a Mellon/Volkswagen Stiftung application to go. (What fun.) After those two are done, I'm good to re-start working on the Jewish matters (AF related).

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  • lynn cates
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    try

    Hello Maria. Thanks, but your confidence in me may be unwarranted.

    I'll give it a go, but would feel much better with an expert.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • mariab
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    I know of none, Lynn, expensive or inexpensive, but I honestly think it can be done by yourself. In my field we do the handwriting recognizing ourselves, and we're talking Beethoven, Mozart, Rossini. The same with the field of literature, they also do it by themselves. I've always considered it an overreaction that Ripperology relies so much on expert handwriting analysts, though I'm aware of all the accusations of forgery over the years (the Diary, the Photoshop “scandal“ with a Berner Street pic, etc..).
    I'm sure SPE can suggest a handwriting specialist.

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  • lynn cates
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    examiner

    Hello Maria. You wouldn't know an inexpensive forensic document examiner?

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • mariab
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    Got Danish things, don't give them to no one...
    As for his handwriting, I was hoping that someone might have found something, but who knows...
    I'll attempt some more research after I have slept one night through.

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  • lynn cates
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    handwriting

    Hello Maria.

    "I have Danish things."

    Well, don't let Evans, Rumbelow or Marriott know about this. You know how coppers are when there is pastry about. (heh-heh)

    Good luck with the archive. And don't forget handwriting for comparison to the "Dear Boss."

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • lynn cates
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    blackmailer

    Hello Tom. Thanks for clarifying. I was thinking about the blackmailer.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • mariab
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    Don't know any Karen Trenouths, and I only speak for myself.
    Can't help what you're thinking or whom you're wishing gone.

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  • Tom_Wescott
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    Hi Maria. Don't make me start thinking you're another Karen Trenouth. And please don't speak for Rob, Debs, myself, or any other posters. We were speaking for ourselves long before you showed up, and will no doubt still be doing so after you're gone.

    Yours truly,

    Tom Wescott

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  • mariab
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    Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
    By the way, can you email me a list of your lad's aliases? Also, I could do with a list of all pertinent names from his trials.
    I'll email you all of this, Lynn. Plus I have Danish things. But the “George Jackson“ part is really Debs' and Rob's territory. Just give me a few days, as I'm terribly busy right now. And the Jewish stuff (AF related) comes first, plus I'm attempting something with Rob pertaining to the London Westminster Archive.

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  • Tom_Wescott
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    I thought it was Michael O'Brien, but could be Matthew. I'm referring to Harry Dam's colleague.

    Yours truly,

    Tom Wescott

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  • lynn cates
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    O'Brien

    Hello Tom. Will do. That's not Matthew O'Brien, perchance?

    By the way, can you email me a list of your lad's aliases? Also, I could do with a list of all pertinent names from his trials.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • lynn cates
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    snooping

    Hello Maria. It seems an odd remark. I'll have to look about and see what it all means.

    Cheers.
    LC

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