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  • Monty
    Commissioner
    • Feb 2008
    • 5413

    #1

    Artizan Dwellings writing photograph

    Hello all,

    With thanks to Stephen Ryder, our article entitled The Victims Photographs and some Wall Writing, which appeared in Ripperologist Issue 127 is now available on the Dissertations page for your reading.



    It was always our intention to present this, and the Eddowes photograph find, to the community in hopes it will spark debate and research, and maybe bring new information to these discoveries.

    Any questions for us regarding these items can be placed here and we will answer them honestly. Any queries or clarification will be adressed as best we can.

    Likewise, if anyone has any more information to add to this topic please feel free to place it here on this thread. The idea is to progress this as best we can, as a collective, if you are curious enough to do so of course.

    With that, we leave you with THE photo of the Artizan Dwellings wall writing.

    Regards

    Neil & Rob
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    Monty

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  • Tempus omnia revelat
    Suspended
    • Jun 2011
    • 154

    #2
    Originally posted by Monty View Post
    Hello all,

    With thanks to Stephen Ryder, our article entitled The Victims Photographs and some Wall Writing, which appeared in Ripperologist Issue 127 is now available on the Dissertations page for your reading.



    It was always our intention to present this, and the Eddowes photograph find, to the community in hopes it will spark debate and research, and maybe bring new information to these discoveries.

    Any questions for us regarding these items can be placed here and we will answer them honestly. Any queries or clarification will be adressed as best we can.

    Likewise, if anyone has any more information to add to this topic please feel free to place it here on this thread. The idea is to progress this as best we can, as a collective, if you are curious enough to do so of course.

    With that, we leave you with THE photo of the Artizan Dwellings wall writing.

    Regards

    Neil & Rob
    This is an amazing find Neil and Rob, and a wonderful addition to the history of the murders. In fact, as I'm currently immersed at the PRO doing all manner of things Maybrick, I'm tempted to have a look through the letters to see if I can find some writing that matches (although I dare say that numerous other people have thought of that as well).


    Kind regards,


    Tempus

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    • Monty
      Commissioner
      • Feb 2008
      • 5413

      #3
      Thank you Tempus,

      I hear that it has been compared to writing of a certain suspect.

      Monty
      Monty

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      Author of Capturing Jack the Ripper.

      http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1445621622

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      • Debra A
        Assistant Commissioner
        • Feb 2008
        • 3504

        #4
        Any leads on the photographer yet?

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        • Abby Normal
          Commissioner
          • Jun 2010
          • 11904

          #5
          Originally posted by Monty View Post
          Hello all,

          With thanks to Stephen Ryder, our article entitled The Victims Photographs and some Wall Writing, which appeared in Ripperologist Issue 127 is now available on the Dissertations page for your reading.



          It was always our intention to present this, and the Eddowes photograph find, to the community in hopes it will spark debate and research, and maybe bring new information to these discoveries.

          Any questions for us regarding these items can be placed here and we will answer them honestly. Any queries or clarification will be adressed as best we can.

          Likewise, if anyone has any more information to add to this topic please feel free to place it here on this thread. The idea is to progress this as best we can, as a collective, if you are curious enough to do so of course.

          With that, we leave you with THE photo of the Artizan Dwellings wall writing.

          Regards

          Neil & Rob
          Thanks Monty!

          The picture is cut off. I assume that it is signed "Jack the Ripper"?

          Also, what month/year was this photo taken and what month/year do you think it was written and what month do you think the "27" refers to?

          Thanks in advance!
          "Is all that we see or seem
          but a dream within a dream?"

          -Edgar Allan Poe


          "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
          quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

          -Frederick G. Abberline

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          • Rob Clack
            Inactive
            • Feb 2008
            • 1708

            #6
            Originally posted by Debra A View Post
            Any leads on the photographer yet?
            None yet Debs. We're still looking.

            Rob

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            • andy1867
              Detective
              • Sep 2012
              • 233

              #7
              Crikey...that was enough to bring me from my "D'Onson for dummies" retreat
              Regarding the "double event" Letter....the phrase "The first one squealed a bit"...could this in an way refer to the 3 small cries Stride made that were heard by Shwartz?




              *prepares to return to "Donson for dummies*

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              • Monty
                Commissioner
                • Feb 2008
                • 5413

                #8
                If you read the dissertation (below) Abby, the cropping is explained, along with the dates and everything up until publication.




                Hey Debs,

                I must confess, I have been doing a little delving into this, all focused on William G Parker. Nothing to report as yet however there is a logic path Im following which I intend on picking up after York.

                As most likely, it will probably lead no where.

                Monty
                Monty

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                Author of Capturing Jack the Ripper.

                http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1445621622

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                • andy1867
                  Detective
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 233

                  #9
                  Having studied the photograph in the opening post...in depth, for nearly half an hour...It is my considered opinion that the block capitals..
                  COPYRIGHT NEIL BELL AND ROBERT CLACK"
                  are a more recent addition to the initial message.....................
                  you know where to find me..
                  Andy

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                  • Monty
                    Commissioner
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 5413

                    #10
                    Heh,

                    Two new suspects which undoubtedly will be drawn unpon in the future.

                    Monty
                    Monty

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                    Author of Capturing Jack the Ripper.

                    http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/aw/d/1445621622

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                    • Sally
                      Superintendent
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 2100

                      #11
                      Just as well really, the old ones (and not so new ones) are a bit clapped out.

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                      • andy1867
                        Detective
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 233

                        #12
                        In all seriousness though...ain't it a pity that the GSG was not photographed...

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                        • Phil H
                          Superintendent
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 2362

                          #13
                          In all seriousness though...ain't it a pity that the GSG was not photographed...

                          If it had been, there is a good chance the plates would not have survived.

                          But I don't think it is a pity. What use would a photograph have been? Just more fuel for pointless discussion.

                          Notwithstanding hundreds if not thousands of posts on here, no one has shown the slightest convincing proof that the GSG is linked to the murderer or the murders. It was simply neaby the discarded apron-piece.

                          Full stop, end of story.

                          Phil H

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                          • andy1867
                            Detective
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 233

                            #14
                            I meant in terms of comparing it to the writing in the opening post....I know it proves nowt...but we could chase a serial graffiti artist in our spare time

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                            • Rob Clack
                              Inactive
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 1708

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Phil H View Post
                              In all seriousness though...ain't it a pity that the GSG was not photographed...

                              If it had been, there is a good chance the plates would not have survived.

                              But I don't think it is a pity. What use would a photograph have been? Just more fuel for pointless discussion.

                              Notwithstanding hundreds if not thousands of posts on here, no one has shown the slightest convincing proof that the GSG is linked to the murderer or the murders. It was simply neaby the discarded apron-piece.

                              Full stop, end of story.

                              Phil H
                              And nobody has shown in the hundreds if not thousands of posts on here that the GSG wasn't written by Jack the Ripper.

                              Full stop, end of story.

                              Rob

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