Back in Time - Your Chance..

[Billiou]

Where would you place yourself to do the recording, Billiou? In the passageway near the door? Because there's a good chance that Jack retreated in exactly that direction straight after the murder and exited out of 29's front door.

I pictured myself following a couple down the passageway to the back door, witnessing the deed and following the murdered as he exited the property ie either over a back fence, or back through to the front door etc

[Shaggyrand]

Macnaghten's side together the "private information" problem being we don't know when.

Now that is a damn fine idea.

[SirJohnFalstaff]

I would choose Dutfield's Yard, to see if he is interrupted, or if it's domestic. And look at which direction he leaves afterwards.

[GUT]

Now that is a damn fine idea.

Don't sound surprised.

[Shaggyrand]

Don't sound surprised.

Not surprised. Jealous that I didn't think of it myself. I would have too... if it weren't for these meddling kids and their desire to change time causing Universe destroying paradoxes and taunting killers with objects no one in 1888 could possibly understand hadn't distracted me.
Nah, who am I kidding? Just jealous.

[Geddy2112]

Sorry, yes of course you would be invisible to all in 1888, not other forum members though lol.

[Joshua Rogan]

Good job too, or we'd all be discussing whether Schwartz really did see Broad Shouldered Man and Camera Man in Berner Street.

[Geddy2112]

It seem Mitre Square would be a popular venue. What information/answers in particular would you wish to understand?

I must admit I'm curious as to how Jack got into Hanbury Street and out again without being spotted...

[Elamarna]

It seem Mitre Square would be a popular venue. What information/answers in particular would you wish to understand?

I must admit I'm curious as to how Jack got into Hanbury Street and out again without being spotted...

Hi, apart from getting a view of him,

1.Seeing where they came from, were they the couple seen at the end of the passage?

2. What time they entered?

2. Did the police miss part of their beats?.

3. What route the killer took from the square and the time he left?

4. By how much did the police miss him? or is it possible he was seen as he left?

5. Did Morris open his door while the killing took place?


With regards to Hanbury street, several possibilities including:

1. Killing took place at the earlier time suggested, so the street may have been less busy.

2. He just walked out, confidently and noone noticed him.

3. Was he known at the address, so no one would question him being there.

We could also put to bed, theories with regards to the time of the murder, and which, if any of the witnesses were telling the truth.


steve

[packers stem]

Hi, apart from getting a view of him,

1.Seeing where they came from, were they the couple seen at the end of the passage?

2. What time they entered?

2. Did the police miss part of their beats?.

3. What route the killer took from the square and the time he left?

4. By how much did the police miss him? or is it possible he was seen as he left?

5. Did Morris open his door while the killing took place?


With regards to Hanbury street, several possibilities including:

1. Killing took place at the earlier time suggested, so the street may have been less busy.

2. He just walked out, confidently and noone noticed him.

3. Was he known at the address, so no one would question him being there.

We could also put to bed, theories with regards to the time of the murder, and which, if any of the witnesses were telling the truth.


steve

Hanbury street is interesting Steve as the popular belief is that around 5.20-5.30 is correct .
Yet it was broad daylight by that time .
Just can't see it myself .Dozens of people in rooms overlooking the yard readying themselves for work ...

[Elamarna]

Hanbury street is interesting Steve as the popular belief is that around 5.20-5.30 is correct .
Yet it was broad daylight by that time .
Just can't see it myself .Dozens of people in rooms overlooking the yard readying themselves for work ...

Packers

It is often said that it was broad daylight, however a online check of sunrise times for 8th Sept 1888 in London shows that was from 05.24-05.26, twilight starting about 30 mins earlier.
So while it may not have been dark, it was certainly not broad daylight either.
Funny how we all accept these statements, I checked it when there was a Richardson thread after Christmas.

So agreed it would have been risky, but we have the 3 witnesses, whom must all be disposed of, who put death at this time.

1. Cadosch saying he heard something, which could have been the murder or actually someone stumbling literally onto it, but keeping their mouth shut.

2. Long saying she saw a couple who may or may not have been Chapman.

3. Richardson, claiming no body at 4.45, is testimony has been questioned and he has been considered a suspect himself.

Of Course we also have Dr Phillips suggesting much earlier.

THE CAMERA would solve that once and for all.

Steve

[Pcdunn]

I think I'd like to hang out in Buck's Row and try to record what the carman did or didn't say to Constable Mizen.

It would also be interesting to take a peek inside Mary Jane Kelly's room and see what the furniture arrangement was, and if any drawings were on the wall.

[Damaso Marte]

Keep in mind Mitre Square is the darkest murder site. You'll get a much better view of the killer in Hanbury Street...unless the murder took place earlier as some hypothesize!