Surgical expertise, anatomical knowledge. So on and so forth..

[Observer]

Also, you seem to believe that Jack The Ripper, was in the early years of his fith decade at the time of the murders. Do you believe it possible that Joseph Lawende was at least twenty years out when assesing the age of the man he saw with Kate Eddowes on the night of her murder?

[DJA]

What!
One of us kill these unfortunate women!
That Sir is an insult!

[Observer]

Yes I'm sure you did. So, what of Doctor Bond ? Was he talking baloney when he stated that he did not believe that the killer displayed any surgical skill?

[DJA]

Figured that.

[Observer]

Sorry slip of the pen, that should of read Doctor Bond.

[DJA]

And what of Doctor Brown? You obviously consider his opinion worthless.

He did an excellent post mortem,describing the removal of the kidney,etc.

[Observer]

How would more than 50 post mortems researching Cholera and it's intestinal workings in June 1866 be for a starting point!
Jack was 30 back then.

Quite sure Dr Phillips recognised his handy work.

And what of Doctor Brown? You obviously consider his opinion worthless.

[jerryd]

FutureM D.

Check your PMs.

Sent one a while back.

There was a Cholera outbreak in London during June 1866 which killed almost 6,000 people.

Our Jack started much of his post mortem research on over 50 of those during that month.

If I say any more ,someone might wake up.

Prolly not,knowing this bunch

That other guy from Colorado is on track though.

No fluoride in the drinking water eh!

Sounds like Henry Gawen Sutton, perhaps?

[Sam Flynn]

I agree to a point Gareth, though with Kelly we have no details of how cuts were made

I'd suggest that the Kelly photographs might provide us some insights there, Jon.

so that only leaves Chapman, and we have that hint by Phillips that this killer was not a common butcher.

Phillips' evidence also records the inefficient and messy manner by which Chapman's abdomen was opened up via three asymmetric flaps of flesh. Apart from being a very different technique to that employed on Eddowes, this aspect of Chapman's death suggests that her killer exhibited little or no surgical skills at all.

[FutureM.D.]

FutureM D.

Check your PMs.

Sent one a while back.

There was a Cholera outbreak in London during June 1866 which killed almost 6,000 people.

Our Jack started much of his post mortem research on over 50 of those during that month.

If I say any more ,someone might wake up.

Prolly not,knowing this bunch

That other guy from Colorado is on track though.

No fluoride in the drinking water eh!

Gracias!

[DJA]

FutureM D.

Check your PMs.

Sent one a while back.

There was a Cholera outbreak in London during June 1866 which killed almost 6,000 people.

Our Jack started much of his post mortem research on over 50 of those during that month.

If I say any more ,someone might wake up.

Prolly not,knowing this bunch

That other guy from Colorado is on track though.

No fluoride in the drinking water eh!

[Wickerman]

Much as I welcomed them, I remain unconvinced by Prosector's suggestions, Jon - mainly because they revolve around Eddowes, leaving unanswered the rather cruder "procedures" wrought upon Nichols, Chapman and Kelly. To single out one victim doesn't give us much of a sample size by which to judge the killer's alleged skill. Even within the bounds of the Eddowes murder, singling out one or two aspects as evidence of surgical skill, whilst ignoring the crudeness of the rest of her killer's handiwork, is perhaps to miss a rather large elephant in the room.

I agree to a point Gareth, though with Kelly we have no details of how cuts were made, so that only leaves Chapman, and we have that hint by Phillips that this killer was not a common butcher.
Prosector has not provided a list of observations on Chapman's mutilations, as far as I know.

[FutureM.D.]

Honestly thought it was self evident.

Jack had a lot of experience cutting people up.

That month he was doing ~ 2 a day.

Prolly do it with his eyes shut.

See dude? Here's the problem. I don't know what you're driving at. I consider myself knowledgeable about the case. And I'm lost. We probably could have avoided an argument, we're just not speaking the same language. Im not sure if you're implying Phillips was the man, or an associate. 2 (2,what exactly) a day? Where does that come from?Okay, I'll happily assume you're on the right path. But from where does it start? I don't need a dissertation, just a hint. Where does this begin?

[DJA]

Honestly thought it was self evident.

Jack had a lot of experience cutting people up.

That month he was doing ~ 2 a day.

Prolly do it with his eyes shut.

[FutureM.D.]

No sweat.

Luckily you didn't catch me last week!

Did you read my Cholera post on the previous page!

I saw it. But I have no idea where you're going with it. I'm really not stupid, I just don't have a lot of time to dig into contemporary ripper research; though I wish I did.

Can you clarify? Or point me in the right direction?