Mass debating on the Ripper - no hard feelings

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  • Tom_Wescott
    Commissioner
    • Feb 2008
    • 7031

    #16
    Originally posted by The Rookie Detective View Post


    Ah yes, you mean...



    "Levy?"

    "Lawrende?"

    "Cross?"



    It would appear you're forming an LLC!

    Yours truly,

    Tom Wescott

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    • Tom_Wescott
      Commissioner
      • Feb 2008
      • 7031

      #17
      Originally posted by The Rookie Detective View Post

      what gets your goat?
      what ruffles your feathers?
      what grates your s**t?
      About the field? Every ********** one of you. Except Scott Nelson. I love Scott Nelson.

      About the case? Warren erasing the writing, the lack of innovation on the part of the Met police. The stealing away of the Kelly inquest from Baxter. Coroner Langham's lack of curiosity re: Eddowes Inquest. The scarcity of official documentation.

      Yours truly,

      Tom Wescott

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      • Doctored Whatsit
        Sergeant
        • May 2021
        • 806

        #18
        I dislike it when we depart from the subject of a thread and get side-tracked, often over some minor issue, the truth of which is usually unknowable. Although I admit I've done it myself, probably like most of us.

        On one occasion there was a totally pointless, boring and rather irrelevant issue disrupting a topic for some time, and I wrote a piece something like, "this is all repeated stuff and irrelevant, let's please get back to the thread's subject matter." I got about five "likes", but the side issue continued regardless!

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        • Scott Nelson
          Superintendent
          • Feb 2008
          • 2475

          #19
          Originally posted by Tom_Wescott View Post
          Coroner Langham's lack of curiosity re: Eddowes Inquest.
          The Police had the Coram knife and didn't have it analyzed at the Eddowes Inquest with respect to her wounds.

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          • FISHY1118
            Assistant Commissioner
            • May 2019
            • 3731

            #20
            ''to the extent that they will manipulate the evidence, edit the evidence, make things up and employ bizarre interpretations to achieve it. I know that we could ignore these people and let them have their dishonest fun but I think that it’s important that they are called out and their deceptions are exposed for what they are'

            So basically anyone with a favoured suspect over the years is a Liar . One could say the ''above description'' could be used for those who have no preferred suspect, but use the above to debate against anyone with one . Kettle Pot Black .
            'It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is. It doesn't matter how smart you are . If it doesn't agree with experiment, its wrong'' . Richard Feynman

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            • Paddy Goose
              Detective
              • May 2008
              • 376

              #21
              Originally posted by Doctored Whatsit View Post
              I dislike it when we depart from the subject of a thread and get side-tracked, ...
              Amen, doc.

              There is a majorly sidetracked thread going on as we speak.

              Here was post #1

              Originally posted by The Rookie Detective View Post
              ...
              Here's a question for all of you wise and wonderful people...

              Are there any individuals in the Ripper case, who didn't even exist?
              Are there any individuals who the police invented...?
              Could Schwartz have been completely fabricated by the police...?

              So the thread was OBVOUSLY about did the POLICE make up this Schwartz character out of thin air.
              Tom Wescott answered the question immediately. He stated Schwartz was a real person. But that hasn't stopped everyone and their dog from going on and on about Schwartz, Pipeman, who chased who, which side of the street was the flower lady, and so on and so on. You know, all the generic stuff that all the generic Stride threads have been about since we actually were The Planet of the Apes.

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              That's Schwartz on the left, the flower lady in the middle and Louis Dimestore on the right. His cart had a flat tire. I betcha didn't know that.

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              • c.d.
                Commissioner
                • Feb 2008
                • 6711

                #22
                If A then B arguments. Examples:

                If it can be shown there are differences in the murders then they had to have been carried out by different individuals;

                If it can be shown that Schwartz did not testify at the Inquest then it shows he was not believed by the police;

                If it can be shown that Stride was not soliciting that night then it shows she was not a Ripper victim.

                Those are just a few examples. But what the posters making these arguments don't seem to understand is that while their conclusion may indeed be correct, their conclusion does not necessarily follow. Proving A does not necessarily prove B.


                c.d.

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                • c.d.
                  Commissioner
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 6711

                  #23
                  And of course the recent Rapture prediction. If A then B. If these signs are present then the calculation of the date that follows has to be correct. And we all know how that turned out.

                  c.d.

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                  • The Rookie Detective
                    Superintendent
                    • Apr 2019
                    • 2098

                    #24
                    I sometimes get irriated by some posts (not posters themselves) that are just plain odd, unrelated, or aim to be all knowing, yet secretive, to suggest the author of the post has all the answers already.

                    Probably something i am guilty of too sometimes though!

                    "Great minds, don't think alike"

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