Bachert to the future

[The Rookie Detective]

And yet more classic Bachert Behaviour from 1885...



Mr Lushington's reaction says it all

One thing this does show; is that Bachert was always looking to get into the newspapers both before and after the Ripper killings



RD

[The Rookie Detective]

I have found something potentially very interesting...

In June/July 1862 a young boy (9 years old) who gave the name of "Albert Backer," was found sleeping under a barrow in the Whitechapel Road.

My question is...

Was this Albert Bachert?...





The geography fits, as does his approximate age.

We also know that he changed his name to Backert from Bachert.

Did he grow up living a lie and was he the boy who was found in Whitechapel Road?


Fascinating.



RD

[Belloc]

That could make George Hutchinson an alias for Albert Bachert.

RD

Lor', RD, you're a proper caution!

[The Rookie Detective]

Did you know, RD, that 5% of the Welsh population in 1911 had the surname Davies? That's over 130,000 people.

The likelihood that Maggie Davies of Pontardawe, Staffen's wife, was a relative of a collier named Davies to whom Mary Jane Kelly was married is, to say the least, remote.

I agree... but can you imagine?


That could make George Hutchinson an alias for Albert Bachert.


And there we have the killer


haha!

If only it was that easy.



RD

[Belloc]

Did you know that Albert Bachert's Nephew Robert Steffen, married a Welsh woman named Davies?

Did you know, RD, that 5% of the Welsh population in 1911 had the surname Davies? That's over 130,000 people.

The likelihood that Maggie Davies of Pontardawe, Staffen's wife, was a relative of a collier named Davies to whom Mary Jane Kelly was married is, to say the least, remote.

[The Rookie Detective]

Did you know that Albert Bachert's Nephew Robert Steffen, married a Welsh woman named Davies?


Were Albert Bachert and MJK related through being In-Laws?

Did Albert Bachert end up in Wales?


Pure speculation of course, but thought I'd ask anyway.


RD

[The Rookie Detective]

Hi RD.

What is known of Roland Joe to make you think he is Albert Bachert, other than he is an engraver?

Roland Joe is a Ghost.


There are no other records matching the data that appears on the 1911 census

If there's one thing that remained fairly constant; it was Bachert stating he was an Engraver.

The age is also the same based on Bachert's birth and baptism data.

The name Roland is as close to a German self proclamation of being famous across the land; and the name Joe may also correspond to MJK.

If anyone is able to find data that disproves that Roland Joe cannot be Bachert, then it is back to square one in terms of where he could have gone after 1901.

One thing that is certain is that whomever the man who lodged with the Irish family in Wales in 1911; his real name was certainly not Roland Joe.
And so why use an alias?


There's just something about that 1911 census that makes me feels it could be Bachert.

I have been trying to disprove my own hypothesis for the past few weeks, but so far I can't disprove it.


RD

[jerryd]

And of course, MJK was alleged to have been fond of another "Joe"

Was this Bachert?


RD

Hi RD.

What is known of Roland Joe to make you think he is Albert Bachert, other than he is an engraver?

[The Rookie Detective]

This appeared in "Toby" on the 31st August 1889; the anniversary of the murder of Nichols...

[The Rookie Detective]

There was a man who was a British subject through foreign parentage, describing himself as a single Engraver of the same age boarding with a family in Wales in 1911

His name was "Roland Joe"

However, that was a false name as Roland Joe never appeared elsewhere.

The name "Roland" in German means...

"Famous across the land"


Was this Albert Bachert?

And was this his message to highlight that it was HE who was famous across the land?

Was this a subtle message from the actual Ripper himself?


RD

And of course, MJK was alleged to have been fond of another "Joe"

Was this Bachert?


RD

[The Rookie Detective]

Thanks Belloc.

You could be right, there. However, the Skeleton Army was the antithesis of the Salvation Army. They had General Booth as their leader so isn't it fitting to have "General Charrington" as leader of the Skeleton Army. "General", packs more punch than, "Journeyman engraver".

Thanks for posting all you have on Bachert. He's a favorite topic of mine.

Bachert was the ultimate of Copy Cats in that respect.

General Booth was not the most favourable figure and involved in child abduction ala Dr Barnardo.

The Salvationist movement was ridiculed with hypocrisy and corruption.

The adoption of the word "General" is clearly an attempt to mimic.

Charles Le Grand also adopted military jargon by calling himself "The Colonel"
And he was a rogue in every sense.

The Skeleton Army appears to have been comprised of angry young men with a right wing agenda who opposed perceived faux Christians (Salvationists) socialists, liberals and foreigners...and yet held very little sway on public opinion.


The one thing that Bachert's use of the name "General Charrington" proves; is that he had the capacity and ability to mimic, fabricate, self promote and adapt himself and his life accordingly.
When you incorporate this attribute into the world of the Ripper case; it amplifies the case for him having been the killer.


RD

[jerryd]

Perhaps “Albert Charrington” was a sort of nom de guerre. The news reports from the early 1880’s show Albert Bachert was quite willing to get into physical fights. This propensity, along with an ability to attract the support of like-minded youths, may help explain how he became “General Charrington.”

Thanks Belloc.

You could be right, there. However, the Skeleton Army was the antithesis of the Salvation Army. They had General Booth as their leader so isn't it fitting to have "General Charrington" as leader of the Skeleton Army. "General", packs more punch than, "Journeyman engraver".

Thanks for posting all you have on Bachert. He's a favorite topic of mine.

[Belloc]

General Charrington’s influence wasn’t limited to the East End of London, but even he couldn’t master the English climate.

The Yorkshire Herald, 31 March 1883, page 15

[Belloc]

As Jerry mentions, there was speculation that the man named Charatan at Albert Backert's Newnham Street address could have been the man known as 'General Charrington' but the mention of engraving seems to point to Backert for sure.

Perhaps “Albert Charrington” was a sort of nom de guerre. The news reports from the early 1880’s show Albert Bachert was quite willing to get into physical fights. This propensity, along with an ability to attract the support of like-minded youths, may help explain how he became “General Charrington.”

[Belloc]

Agreed. Gary is an exceptional researcher.

As are you.