Jack the Ripper case breakthrough; the when and how

[Lechmere]

Why flee?
To avoid being found guilty of Gross Indecency. That would have been death, socially, for him.

[GUT]

G'Day Lechmere

I think a serious question though is "Why did he decamp?"

[Lechmere]

It is true to say that there were newspaper stories in circulation that originated from the United States that claimed that Tumblety was arrested for Gross Indecency after the police failed to make Ripper charges stick.
However, he was charged with Gross Indecency before Kelly was killed. And possibly released before she was killed and was possibly at liberty when she was killed. So he can hardly have been under any sort of surreptitious supervision when she was killed… or if he was the police blundered badly
But after Kelly was killed Tumblety presented himself to answer the Gross Indecency Charges and was again released on bail.
Then he supposedly gave the police the sip and absconded to France and then New York. Easy enough if just charged with Gross Indecency, but problematic if under any sort of surreptitious supervision as the leading Jack the Ripper suspect of the day.
Or the police blundered horribly.

Tumblety’s organ collection was seen during the Civil War when he was trying to pass himself off as a proper doctor and ‘proper doctors’ tended to have private organ collections to demonstrate their bona fides and competence as surgeons. I would guess he bought these organs.
It seems that Anderson first made enquiries with his American colleagues after Tumblety had been released on bail and after the stories had appeared in the United States press about Tumblety’s supposed arrest as a Jack the Ripper suspect. So the Met could only potentially have heard about this organ collection after Tumblety had absconded and so the organ collection could not have influenced their supposed original suspicion of him.

[GUT]

G'Day Pinkmoon

And a fork, spoon and bowl in fact at one time he had a full set. But I think he lost some throwing them at whores!

[GUT]

G'Day Tom

If you re-read my post you will note that I said "reports" of his Uteri collection.

[pinkmoon]

Hi Gut. It's been persuasively argued that he never had such a collection.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

Yes but he owned a knife so it must be him

[Tom_Wescott]

G'Day Pink [Dont mind me giving the trade name]

I agree totally, they were totally embarrassed, they let him slip. I would be disappointed if the reports of his uteri collection didn't raise red flags.

Hi Gut. It's been persuasively argued that he never had such a collection.

Yours truly,

Tom Wescott

[Wickerman]

Answer, he's dead, incapacitated, in an institution, or left the country.

Doesn't "leaving the country" only suggest a change of venue?, but it's not a reason for stopping.

[GUT]

Bed at Midday, my time anyway. Sleep tight.

[pinkmoon]

Doubtless.

Having just solved the most famous unsolved crime of all time between us I have to answer the angelic voice of my wife who is calling me to bed oh joy speak soon gut.

[GUT]

Doubtless.

[pinkmoon]

The one question that really stands out to me is why did he [Jack] stop? if he did. Then of course a second question, when did he stop?

I know Serial Killers stop [Zodiac and BTK stand out] but I know of no example of a SK of Jacks MO and Signature stopping.

Answer, he's dead, incapacitated, in an institution, or left the country.

Tumblety appears at the right time and disappears a the right time also we have a motive the removal of the wombs.

[GUT]

The one question that really stands out to me is why did he [Jack] stop? if he did. Then of course a second question, when did he stop?

I know Serial Killers stop [Zodiac and BTK stand out] but I know of no example of a SK of Jacks MO and Signature stopping.

Answer, he's dead, incapacitated, in an institution, or left the country.

[pinkmoon]

Yep and I can't see a lot wrong with it, I think he deserves, along with two or three others, very close scrutiny.

Do you think tumblety murdered Mary Kelly?

[GUT]

Yep and I can't see a lot wrong with it, I think he deserves, along with two or three others, very close scrutiny.