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  • lynn cates
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    Neil

    Hello GUT.

    "I've often wondered how frequently the beat would be walked in reverse?"

    You might chat up Neil Bell--that's his turf.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • lynn cates
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    observant

    Hello PCFT. Thanks.

    The latter. And yes, observation that night could have revealed the beat. Of course, he would need to be observant and know which landmark comes when and in what order.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • PC Fitzroy-Toye
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    Originally posted by GUT View Post
    G'Day PC FT

    And of course if reversing it was done say every second night, ie clockwise one night anti clockwise the next the perpetrator would know in advance.
    Quite so G and mr J is the type that I would think would be lurking and skulking about before feeling he could make a kill.

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  • GUT
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    G'Day PC FT

    And of course if reversing it was done say every second night, ie clockwise one night anti clockwise the next the perpetrator would know in advance.

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  • PC Fitzroy-Toye
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    Originally posted by GUT View Post
    I've often wondered how frequently the beat would be walked in reverse?
    Not sure on that one GUT but the problem with a regular beat is your time frame on where your be on that beat dose not take much time to become know hence a reverse patrol may give you a chance to catch a crim out but if he's smart an waits it will become aparent to him what your up to and you edge is gone.
    Last edited by PC Fitzroy-Toye; 02-02-2014, 08:01 PM.

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  • GUT
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    I've often wondered how frequently the beat would be walked in reverse?

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  • PC Fitzroy-Toye
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    So Lynn are you linking Chapmann and Eddowes but you are reserved about the others? or is it you consider Eddowes a copy due to knowledge gained via the press? As for the movement of the officer could the killer not of noticed the order of patrol not being the norm purely by observation .
    Last edited by PC Fitzroy-Toye; 02-02-2014, 07:47 PM.

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  • lynn cates
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    the script

    Hello PCFT. Thanks.

    There seems to be a good bit of Kate's killing dependent on Annie's inquest and the news.

    For example, her eyes were closed by a knife, possibly because the assailant thought there was something in all that talk about the eyes being able to retain an image of the killer.

    Moreover, the killer needed to know Watkins's schedule and that he was going in reverse that night.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • PC Fitzroy-Toye
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    Originally posted by lynn cates View Post
    Hello PCFT. Not bad. I think that Kate's killing was fairly well scripted.

    Cheers.
    LC
    Would you care to expand on that ?

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  • PC Fitzroy-Toye
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    Originally posted by Graham View Post
    You what?

    G
    Hello G what do you not understand ? Your going to say all of it are you not!
    Ho um yes I did put one killed sorry should be one killer.
    Last edited by PC Fitzroy-Toye; 02-02-2014, 04:51 PM.

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  • lynn cates
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    not bad

    Hello PCFT. Not bad. I think that Kate's killing was fairly well scripted.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • Graham
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    Originally posted by PC Fitzroy-Toye View Post
    Lynn I guess your own theorem is that JTR was not just a creation of the papers but they also wrongly place the murders of many women to just one hand as did the police ,I guess this is part of the mystery, we in the main only have the reports and opinions of the minds of that time as are evidence and they are not always in accord ,so us like them have a scant thread to follow an little in the way of facts, I can see your reasoning as its a fine way to cover a murder by making it as another therefor leading the minds of the time to think of one killed an not the many but could it also be the work of one hand as those of the time thought?
    You what?

    G

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  • PC Fitzroy-Toye
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    Lynn I guess your own theorem is that JTR was not just a creation of the papers but they also wrongly place the murders of many women to just one hand as did the police ,I guess this is part of the mystery, we in the main only have the reports and opinions of the minds of that time as are evidence and they are not always in accord ,so us like them have a scant thread to follow an little in the way of facts, I can see your reasoning as its a fine way to cover a murder by making it as another therefor leading the minds of the time to think of one killed an not the many but could it also be the work of one hand as those of the time thought?
    Last edited by PC Fitzroy-Toye; 02-02-2014, 03:04 PM.

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  • lynn cates
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    plausible

    Hello Dave. Thanks.

    Unusual, but entirely plausible, I think.

    Cheers.
    LC

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  • Cogidubnus
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    Gawd it does strain the old peepers...a somewhat unusual slant on the WCMs though

    Cheers!

    Dave

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