Crime Waves

[lynn cates]

devil in the details

Hello PCFT. Thanks.

Of course, there are different accounts of the details.

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

puzzle

Hello GUT. Thanks.

Yes, one of a great many puzzles.

Cheers.
LC

[Barnaby]

Hi Lynn,

While an interesting theory, I don't know how you could label this as excellent when it contains a number of factual inaccuracies in but a short amount of text (hit on the head with a stone? found the next day?).

Barnaby

[GUT]

My aim is to please.

[PC Fitzroy-Toye]

In fact you could say it "ripped me up".

Nice!

[PC Fitzroy-Toye]

G'Day PC

"Clear Cut"

Good one on Jacky ... ... ... ...

I did wonder if someone was going to pick up on that

[GUT]

In fact you could say it "ripped me up".

[GUT]

G'Day PC

"Clear Cut"

Good one on Jacky ... ... ... ...

[PC Fitzroy-Toye]

Thanks for the clarity gents I will be keeping MJK as very likely one of J's the absent heart makes it a little more clear cut for me.

[GUT]

G'Day Jon

Just reread the inquest and PM on MJK what you say makes perfect sense to me about the police learning a lesson from the "kidne".

And as you say why have Drs sift the ashes if not looking for something it would take a doctor to recognize? Normally I would expect ash sfting to be done by a grunt if looking for, lets say a weapon for example.

[Wickerman]

G'Day Jon

I agree. As I said earlier there is if my memory isn't failing me yet again one report of all organs being accounted for. But that doesn't explain it being missing from the location of organs in the room, or no mention at inquest, nor as you say the description of being "absent".

G'day sport.

Well, if I can offer a suggestion. I suspect the police or perhaps medical men did not betray the truth about the missing heart to the press.
They likely learned their lesson over the Lusk kidney fiasco, and did not wish to receive numerous boxed hearts in the mail

We do know that Phillips & Macdonald did return to Millers Court after the autopsy to sift the ashes in the fireplace. Any detectives could have sifted ashes if they were looking for material evidence.
So, I suspect this is why the medical men sifted the ashes, they were looking for something only they could identify, a missing human organ, the heart.

[GUT]

G'Day Jon

I agree. As I said earlier there is if my memory isn't failing me yet again one report of all organs being accounted for. But that doesn't explain it being missing from the location of organs in the room, or no mention at inquest, nor as you say the description of being "absent".

[PC Fitzroy-Toye]

G'Day PC Fitzroy-Toye

Personally I'd say who ever dunit was "one sick puppy dog".

Yer he's like when you find something dead an rotten and can not but start poking it with a stick you know its going to be grim but your compelled to look and it becomes captivating.

[Wickerman]

It is described as absent, but it does not appear in the list of organs found in the room and it is not mentioned in the inquest reports as having been examined. I am really not convinced f the absent meant absent from the body or absent from the room.

Dr Bond lists the breasts and all the organs that were removed; uterus, kidneys, liver, intestines, and spleen, yet none of these are described as 'absent', even though they are all absent from the body, but not absent from the room.
Only the heart was removed from the body and not found in the room, and only the heart is described as 'absent'.

That in itself suggests the meaning of 'absent' in this context.

[PC Fitzroy-Toye]

Hello PCFT, GUT. I believe there is one news account which claims all organs are accounted for.

Cheers.
LC

Muchly Lynn thought I could recall something in one of the papers about the heart, shame I got the details wrong!