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The Seaside Home: Could Schwartz or Lawende Have Put the Ripper's Neck in a Noose?
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Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post
I certainly think that this could have been the case DM. If the police were pretty certain that they’d got their man then we can imagine their frustration if the witness just wasn’t confident enough to give a positive ID especially when considering the ramifications.
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Originally posted by C. F. Leon View Post
You mean like those Paragons of Sanity Dahlmer & Bundy???
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Originally posted by Aethelwulf View Post
Steady on there. I'm talking about being outwardly nuts, being restrained and carted off to the loony bin. Was not Bundy outwardly normal?
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Originally posted by C. F. Leon View Post
That was EXACTLY my point. The Ripper wouldn't have been able to "hire" his victims if he was COMPLETELY a drooler, especially later at the height of the Ripper Scare. He certainly was able to make some preparations, such as polishing the buttons, farthings, or whatever he was using as bait. And perhaps that's WHY the murders stopped. He degenerated to the point that the potential victims were scared away.
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Originally posted by Darryl Kenyon View PostAnd he got all the info regarding the ID from Sagar. This assumes that Lawende was the witness of course and Kosminski was the butchers row suspect.l
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Originally posted by Scott Nelson View Post
I've been trying to shoehorn the enfeebled former hairdresser, Aaron Kosminski, into the role of the Butcher's Row suspect now for years -- and can't do it to my satisfaction. There may have been a suspect with somewhat similar attributes to Aaron who worked in the area and may have had the name, Kosminski.
Could the Butcher's Row suspect have been Jacob Levy?
Cheers, GeorgeThe needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one.
Disagreeing doesn't have to be disagreeable - Jeff Hamm
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Yes, I don't see why not. Incidently, Sagar was a plain-clothes City Police Inspector who took part in many surveillance activities and raids -- mostly gambling houses and brothels. His knowledge of a murder suspect in Butchers Row who was apparently part of an identification proceeding makes Sagar a prime candidate to have been present at the ID. There's also a good chance he was one of the City CID officials who kept surveillance on Kosminski's brother's house for a "short time."
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Originally posted by Scott Nelson View PostYes, I don't see why not. Incidently, Sagar was a plain-clothes City Police Inspector who took part in many surveillance activities and raids -- mostly gambling houses and brothels. His knowledge of a murder suspect in Butchers Row who was apparently part of an identification proceeding makes Sagar a prime candidate to have been present at the ID. There's also a good chance he was one of the City CID officials who kept surveillance on Kosminski's brother's house for a "short time."
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Originally posted by Trevor Marriott View PostSo how come Major Smith makes no mention of it ?
Smith's main objection to Anderson was his perception of Anderson's anti-Semitism.
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Originally posted by Scott Nelson View Post
Major Smith didn't believe anything meaningful would come out of the ID because he interviewed one of the witnesses beforehand and came away convinced that the witness couldn't remember the suspect. I think Smith remained unconvinced by Kosminski while others under his command may have felt otherwise.
Smith's main objection to Anderson was his perception of Anderson's anti-Semitism.
If the Id was as positive as has been written then JTR had been identified and Major Smith would have known that and would have surely made mention of it in his memoirs
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Originally posted by Trevor Marriott View Post
You don't know what Major Smith believed.
If the Id was as positive as has been written then JTR had been identified and Major Smith would have known that and would have surely made mention of it in his memoirs
www.trevormarriott.co.ukI won't always agree but I'll try not to be disagreeable.
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Originally posted by Bridewell View Post
You think? The City Commissioner would have made mention of the fact that The Metropolitan Police had succeeded where his City of London Police had failed? Perhaps he would - but then again, knowing Chief Police Officers, perhaps he wouldn't. As you rightly point out, we don't know what Major Smith believed but, by the same token, we don't know what he thought either.
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