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[Aethelwulf]

I found Astrakhan first in 2016. After a couple of days I found JTR by searching around the former. I should have found Kelly then but I overlooked her and didn't find her until sometime in 2020.

I have extensively researched Astrakhan, JTR and Kelly.

regards,

Martyn

You need to show some evidence, not just trot out the old 'wait for the book'. As it stands, your theory sounds like a cosy bedfellow for Trev's sanitary towel.

[Kattrup]

I found Astrakhan first in 2016. After a couple of days I found JTR by searching around the former. I should have found Kelly then but I overlooked her and didn't find her until sometime in 2020.

I have extensively researched Astrakhan, JTR and Kelly.

regards,

Martyn

Oh, so it isn't actually an "ascertained fact" like you claimed. It's just a pet theory. That's fine.

Some people might wonder how the sentence "This is my personal theory" gets twisted into "This is ascertained fact", but perhaps one day you'll show some of the foundations for your theory and we can discuss it.

[mpriestnall]

Oh, so it isn't actually an "ascertained fact" like you claimed. It's just a pet theory. That's fine.

Some people might wonder how the sentence "This is my personal theory" gets twisted into "This is ascertained fact", but perhaps one day you'll show some of the foundations for your theory and we can discuss it.

I think I'll save anything of substance for my book thanks.

[mpriestnall]

Hi Aethelwulf

So I’m confident we’ll eventually find MJK, I’m equally confident she won’t help us find JtR

Kattrup, on what do you base your confidence that MJK won't help find JTR?

I assume you don't either of their identities so other than bias on your part, how can you possibly make this claim with any confidence at all?

[Kattrup]

Kattrup, on what do you base your confidence that MJK won't help find JTR?

I assume you don't either of their identities so other than bias on your part, how can you possibly make this claim with any confidence at all?

Since there's nothing to indicate that MJK knew her killer, it stands to reason that knowing her identity will not be any help in finding JtR.

[DJA]

Since there's nothing to indicate that MJK knew her killer, it stands to reason that knowing her identity will not be any help in finding JtR.

Mary ANN Kelly was 29 years of age when murdered,having been baptized at St Leonard's,Shoreditch.Same place her corpse was sent to.

Her murderer was the Vestry medical officer.

Same guy that treated Nichols and Eddowes as inpatient's with rheumatic fever in the London Hospital from December 1867.

[Kattrup]

Mary ANN Kelly was 29 years of age when murdered,having been baptized at St Leonard's,Shoreditch.Same place her corpse was sent to.

Her murderer was the Vestry medical officer.

Same guy that treated Nichols and Eddowes as inpatient's with rheumatic fever in the London Hospital from December 1867.

Yes, of course. And when asked for any sources to this, it's the same reply: "Wait for the book!". Or, in your case, the movie. Why not show what you have while we wait, besides the article about rheumatic fever which doesn't even have the right info about the victims?

[Aethelwulf]

Yes, of course. And when asked for any sources to this, it's the same reply: "Wait for the book!". Or, in your case, the movie. Why not show what you have while we wait, besides the article about rheumatic fever which doesn't even have the right info about the victims?

mpriestnall and DJA have between them the two most laughably ridiculous theories I've seen on here. Total fantasy.

[DJA]

Yes, of course. And when asked for any sources to this, it's the same reply: "Wait for the book!". Or, in your case, the movie. Why not show what you have while we wait, besides the article about rheumatic fever which doesn't even have the right info about the victims?

What would you like to know other than what I have supplied over the years?

Ever wonder why Nichols moved in next door to Eddowes who then went hopping?
After Nichols being murdered near the London Hospital,Eddowes returned seeking a reward.
Next thing she is also dead,having told the cops her name was Mary Ann Kelly.

What problem do you have with " Natural History of Rheumatic Fever"?

[Aethelwulf]

What would you like to know other than what I have supplied over the years?

Ever wonder why Nichols moved in next door to Eddowes who then went hopping?
After Nichols being murdered near the London Hospital,Eddowes returned seeking a reward.
Next thing she is also dead,having told the cops her name was Mary Ann Kelly.

What problem do you have with " Natural History of Rheumatic Fever"?

This is basically the same as Ike seeing letters on Kelly's wall and body.

[Kattrup]

What would you like to know other than what I have supplied over the years?

Ever wonder why Nichols moved in next door to Eddowes who then went hopping?
After Nichols being murdered near the London Hospital,Eddowes returned seeking a reward.
Next thing she is also dead,having told the cops her name was Mary Ann Kelly.

What problem do you have with " Natural History of Rheumatic Fever"?

Any kind of evidence would be nice.Any contemporary document supporting your notion that Sutton was gay, Sutton was the inspiration for Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, the C5 knew each other, MJK was Mary Ann Kelly, that BS Man was Simon Morgenstern etc.

No, I don't wonder about those things because there's no reason to. There's nothing to indicate that the women knew each other, or that the events you mention were connected at all. I'm hoping you will show me a reason - that is, something more than just a fanciful theory.

Hmm, their ages are off and Catherine C. had just given birth, but her condition is not mentioned?

[DJA]

Any kind of evidence would be nice.Any contemporary document supporting your notion that Sutton was gay, Sutton was the inspiration for Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, the C5 knew each other, MJK was Mary Ann Kelly, that BS Man was Simon Morgenstern etc.

No, I don't wonder about those things because there's no reason to. There's nothing to indicate that the women knew each other, or that the events you mention were connected at all. I'm hoping you will show me a reason - that is, something more than just a fanciful theory.

Hmm, their ages are off and Catherine C. had just given birth, but her condition is not mentioned?

RLS wrote Dr J & Mr H because he considered the latter to be a hypocrite.Dr J is obviously Dr Gull who resided at Finsbury Square with Mr H/Sutton living next door.

Inspector Newcomen is obviously Major Henry Smith.Most likely RLS's source of details.

The young girl trampled .......

I have to pull up stumps due to ill health,however I'll be back.

[DJA]

Hmm, their ages are off and Catherine C. had just given birth, but her condition is not mentioned?

Their ages are approximate.
Gull had problems with dates,hence almost everyone has his age wrong.
IIRC he was baptized at West Acklam August 1835.

What was George Conway's birth date?

[DJA]

Should read Sutton not Gull.

[Kattrup]

Their ages are approximate.
Gull had problems with dates,hence almost everyone has his age wrong.
IIRC he was baptized at West Acklam August 1835.

What was George Conway's birth date?

Debra Arif found him, it wasn’t George but Thomas Lawrence, born December 8th, baptized 22nd.

kind of odd for Catherine to spend an entire month in hospital at that point, wouldn’t you say?