A Theory -The access to Mary Kelly

[richardnunweek]

Hi,
I would suggest that it is an absolute certainty that Kelly's was ''invited in'', the most obvious killer being Mr A,however if Mrs Praters inquest interpretation of a nightmare is accurate, also taking the considerable amount of time that passed after Hutchinson's bogey man entered the room and the cry into consideration , we can have doubts.
The last man seen with the victim is always suspect number one, and if Maxwell was right. then the middle aged man dressed like a porter, seen talking to Mary has to be the most likely killer.
If Kelly returned to her room, to dress down to receive such a person, it would explain the state of undress , the boots laying by the fireplace, and as it was daylight, the rolled up bedding, which would have not been in that position had it been night-time.
The burnt out kettle may have been the result of boiling water, and Mary not being in the position to remove .
I would suggest that MJK made a dreadful mistake in trusting that she would be safe from the killer in daylight, and let her guard down.
Regards Richard.

[Garry Wroe]

That makes sense. But what about the extreme damage inflicted on the body? Do you envision any background in that?

What I see, Curious, is an offender whose sexual impulses were so perverted that he could attain gratification only by acts of extreme violence against women.

It's difficult for me to think that was done by an ordinary person without any background in ?? I don't know, murder or butchery, or something similar.

Murder certainly, Curious. But butchery? The following extract of my book might be worth thinking about:-

‘But it is the latter-day serialist who places the Ripper’s exploits in their truest light, medically untrained killers like Ed Gein who beheaded victims as well as removing internal organs and large areas of skin. Jeffrey Dahmer, Albert Fish, Dennis Nilsen, Andrei Chikatilo, Fritz Haarman, Karl Denke and Joachim Kroll each fall into a similar category, representing an arbitrary sample of non-medico murderers who have exhibited tremendous dexterity in dismemberment and organ removal. In addition to performing these same ritualistic acts, Ed Kemper learned from experience that, by slicing through a victim’s Achilles tendons, he could stave off crural rigor mortis – a process which, if left unchecked, severely inhibits necrophilic activity. And when in 1959 Birmingham police were alerted to the murder of Stephanie Baird, they became convinced that the man responsible had undergone medical training, a view endorsed by Dr Francis Camps after he had examined the body. Apart from being decapitated, Stephanie had been mutilated in a manner that stirred echoes of Mary Kelly. This prompted investigators to interview four thousand butchers as well as hundreds of medical students. These inquiries led nowhere. Then, quite by chance, the murderer was apprehended. He turned out to be Patrick Byrne, a twenty-eight year old Dubliner of below average intelligence who earned his living as a building site labourer.’

In other words ordinary men without training in butchery or surgical procedures are perfectly capable of inflicting the most appalling of injuries on their victims as part of the fantasy which motivates and perpetuates their crimes.

[Wickerman]

What I intended to address in this thread was how this killer gained access to Mary Kelly, which really boils down to either with her consent, or without it.

If you use the acceptable evidence, that is evidence that is provided at the Inquest and with the approval of the coroner, we have Marys arrival with company, no seen departure of either...and a room dark and quiet by 1:30am, we have a cry out at approx 3:45 sounding like it came from the courtyard heard by 2 witnesses in different locations, we have the room evidence... which shows us a partially clad Mary being attacked while in bed on the far right hand side, likely lying on her right side, facing the partition wall. We have 2 locked windows and a locked door. We have boots by the fireplace, clothes on the chair nearby.

The fact Kelly was dressed in a chemise on what we believe to be a cool night, in a room with two broken windows, strongly suggests to me she was not alone. Kelly was dressed to entertain.
Mrs Prater, like Cox, like Lewis & Kennedy, apparently all slept with their day clothes on, very possibly the normal state of dress for all those near destitute and not able to waste money on keeping a fire going all night.
When you're alone you make do, but if you are entertaining you make an effort, you make exceptions.

The state of her clothes, apparently orderly, and her dress (chemise) indicate to me she had a man with her, a client, in her last moments.
If she had been found fully clothed, like Prater, Cox, etc. then it 'could' be argued an intruder broke in, but not in the sate she was actually found.

Her killer was a client, he was invited in.

Regards, Jon S.

[Abby Normal]

....and one wonders how many of that type were in Kelly's small social circle

Apparently one

[Wickerman]

Jon -



But then -



So, a small social circle or a large one?

Not everyone she knew was her friend, as the evidence suggests

(but well spotted anyway - one to you)