London crime wave?

[Jon Guy]

Hi Lynn

Forgive my asking but what do you mean by "she was a result of it " ?

She may have been mutilated as a result of the Whitechapel murders but her murder was simply the result of her refusing the advances of a drunken Waddell

[lynn cates]

summary

Hello Jon. Thanks.

I think your last sentence sums up neatly what I was saying. Of course, she would have been killed irrespective of events in Whitechapel/Spitalfields. But her mutilations would not have been evidenced.

Cheers.
LC

[Jon Guy]

Hi Lynn

Just for jolly, here`s a detailed account of the affair.

http://www.chester-le-street-heritage.org/September%202012%20%20Web%20Newsletter.pdf

[caz]

Hello Jon. Thanks.

I think your last sentence sums up neatly what I was saying. Of course, she would have been killed irrespective of events in Whitechapel/Spitalfields. But her mutilations would not have been evidenced.

Cheers.
LC

But doesn't that serve to show just how rare and sensational the Whitechapel mutilation murders must have been, if the one or two examples from elsewhere in the country can be put down to the odd killer getting ideas they would not otherwise have had without the extensive media coverage?

And where does that leave you with Stride, whose killer could so easily have added a slash here or a rip there, if he had wanted or needed to make her look like another ripper job - unless he was interrupted after all, or didn't dare hang around for the few extra seconds it would have taken him?

While we might expect the odd copycat mutilation or throat-cutting murder, anywhere the newspapers reached, and committed by someone with a reason for attacking a specific individual, would it not be a truly remarkable coincidence for such a thing to have happened on the same few streets as the crime wave itself, involving the identical victim type, at a similar time of night or day of the week, and in such similar circumstances (no loud screaming, swiftly efficient kill, no sign of the killer running away etc)?

Love,

Caz
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[Hunter]

I believe the Gateshead murder greatly influenced Bagster Phillips and his perception of these murders. His only interview on these murders by a Press Association reporter at the close of the Chapman inquest ( Phillips had just returned from Gateshead) is very telling.

[lynn cates]

Three Tuns

Hello Jon. Thanks for that. Wish it WERE a bit more jolly.

Interesting place for an inquest?

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

criminal mind

Hello Caroline. Thanks.

"But doesn't that serve to show just how rare and sensational the Whitechapel mutilation murders must have been, if the one or two examples from elsewhere in the country can be put down to the odd killer getting ideas they would not otherwise have had without the extensive media coverage?"

Perhaps. It also serves to show how a criminal mind works.

Stride? Never thought SHE was a copycat--only Eddowes.

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

deep thinker

Hello Cris. Thanks.

Indeed. Bagster was a VERY conscientious man and thought deeply before making a move.

Cheers.
LC