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[mariab]

Hello Lynn.
I'll look it up in a little while, as I have to deal with some phone calls.
By the way, did you know I once spent several months in Krakow, examining the Meyerbeer autograph scores (which ended up there after War World II) as a doctoral candidate?
I know a few Polish words, but most of them not quotable. ;-)

[lynn cates]

better

Hello Maria. Here is a better translation, kindly provided by Simon Wood.

Madam,

State Archive in Cracow is pleased to announce that a team owned by the Archives Act C. k. Police Directorate in Cracow in the years 1849-1919 [1926] found records of the investigation concerning the policing of Boleslaw Malankiewiczem - socialist activist, from the years 1889 to 1894 (ref . 29/247/1122 act). The case file counts 102 pages.

With the above-mentioned acts, you can read in a scientific laboratory division II Archives, located on ul. Grodzka 52 (gate II) in Krakow, which is open from Monday to Thursday in the hours. 9.00-15.00. You can also order a copy of the file archive performance. Terms and prices of services in the State Archives in Krakow can be found at the National Archives in Krakow http://www.archiwum.krakow.pl/menu.php.

Please note that, as a result of the query performed in the team act k. C. Directorate of Police in Kraków in the years 1849-1919 [1926] not found the file on Boleslaw Malankiewicza from 1883.

Yours sincerely
Natalia Hajduga

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

translation

Hello Maria. Joking aside, here is the result of the online translation (minus the farewell).

You honorable, record office inform in crakow kindly, that act in owned by archive group C. k. Board of management of police recover records of (acts of) investigation in crakow from summer (year) over boleslaw 1849-1919 [ 1926 ] concerning oversight police Malankiewiczem - operator socialist, from summer (year) 1889-1894 ( sygn. Act 29/247/1122 ). Records of (acts of) cases count part 102. It is possible to be acquainted (to be familiarized) with highly mentioned records (acts) in scientific studio of department (squad) II archive, gate at in crakow put street II 52 ( ) Grodzkiej, from monday for thursday in (to) effective hour 9.00-15.00. Capability of order of archive of execution of copy exists act also. Instruction book (order) and it is possible to find price list of favor (services) showed (testified) in record office in crakow on part of record office in crakow http://www.archiwum.krakow.pl/menu.php. We inform simultaneously, that act in result in group carried kwerendy C. k. Act recover board of management of police in crakow from summer (year) from 1883 year 1849-1919 [ 1926 ] concerning boleslaw Malankiewicza. With words of (expressions of) estimates.

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

news from Kracow

Hello Maria. I have just received excellent news from Kracow! Kracow is the Polish town (in the Tsar's back pocket) whence came Boleslaw Melankiewicz, Rachkovski's East London penetration agent. I sent an email a couple of weeks ago to their police archive for information.

Here is the text of the reply.

Szanowna Pani,

Archiwum Państwowe w Krakowie uprzejmie informuje, że w posiadanym przez Archiwum zespole akt C. k. Dyrekcja Policji w Krakowie z lat 1849-1919 [1926] odnaleziono akta dochodzenia dotyczącego nadzoru policyjnego nad Bolesławem Malankiewiczem - działaczem socjalistycznym, z lat 1889-1894 (sygn. akt 29/247/1122). Akta sprawy liczą 102 strony.

Z wyżej wymienionymi aktami można zapoznać się w pracowni naukowej oddziału II Archiwum, położonej przy ul. Grodzkiej 52 (brama II) w Krakowie, czynnej od poniedziałku do czwartku w godz. 9.00-15.00. Istnieje również możliwość zlecenia Archiwum wykonania kopii akt. Regulamin i cennik usług świadczonych w Archiwum Państwowym w Krakowie znaleźć można na stronie Archiwum Państwowego w Krakowie http://www.archiwum.krakow.pl/menu.php .

Jednocześnie informujemy, że w wyniku kwerendy przeprowadzonej w zespole akt C. k. Dyrekcji Policji w Krakowie z lat 1849-1919 [1926] nie odnaleziono akt dotyczących Bolesława Malankiewicza z 1883 roku.

Z wyrazami szacunku
Natalia Hajduga

Wow!

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

Tanner

Hello Maria. Here is a description of the incident inspiring the next to last entry. Year is 1887, I believe.

Snippet provided by Simon Wood.

Cheers.
LC

[mariab]

Lynn, thank you so much for Michael Kerwin. I'll try to look at the cleaned-up file later tonight (if not with fever, otherwise a bit later).
I still haven't managed to get up, got entangled in a discussion of American health care in the Palin thread (of all threads).

[lynn cates]

Autumn of Terror

Hello Maria. I refer to Michael Kerwin.

"Le Grand had no honest intentions in the Berner Street investigation."

I fully believe that, but my habit is to make assurance doubly sure. (But for the purposes of investigation and research, a good hunch will do.)

"With repercussions pertaining to his dad I meant, if the alleged “Danish diplomat“ was politically involved himself, and if he kept helping out Le Grand financially, and such."

I know what you mean. But, I can see all sorts of ramifications, given that what happened in the "Autumn of Terror" coincides with what I THINK happened.

Get well soon.

Cheers.
LC

[mariab]

Hello Lynn,
as it happens, the file I had cleaned-up at PhotoShop is quite a bit clearer than the initial thing (but it's become digitally too massive to send you over as an email, plus it'd probably come over to you all blurred anyway), so I might have a look at it later tonight and try to transcribe the names as my eyes read them – WITHOUT claiming in any sense whatsoever that my reading would be the correct one. What's the name of the Fenian chap listed in there? (Because I won't recognize him to save my life.)
(Right now I'm trying to get up, and make phone calls, and see if I can move around with this stupid fever.)
Lynn, please believe me, Le Grand had no honest intentions in the Berner Street investigation. Don't try to approach this as a question/progression in logic, this is a criminal investigation, so you need to stay “streetwise“.
With repercussions pertaining to his dad I meant, if the alleged “Danish diplomat“ was politically involved himself, and if he kept helping out Le Grand financially, and such.

[lynn cates]

the eyes have it

Hello Maria. Actually, I was counting on your superior eyesight and mental acumen to decipher the entries. I might give it another go later on. Debs seems to have found a Fenian bloke listed there--I'll look more closely (poor eyesight and all).

Actually, I wasn't being ironic about Le Grand, but I WAS trying to be objective. Although it seems obvious to me that he was busy gerrymandering the evidence, we cannot completely overlook the faint possibility of thorough craftsmanship here--remote though the chance be.

Repercussions? Indeed. But can you imagine the repercussions if it turned out that a rogue copper were involved--even in a very small way? The good chaps at SY would be horrified, as well they might be. So would I.

Cheers.
LC

[mariab]

As time permits, why not make a list of names from the ledger, and I can look into some of them--time permitting?

Lynn, from the SB entries I only have the one picture you yourself sent me (containing the entries Catherine Kelly and John Kelly), nothing else. Debra Arif knows everything about this, and I think that she and Rob have already checked the names listed in the entry, or intend to check them. Perhaps if you asked her, since you know her much better than I do?
I'll ask Rob Clack about Ms Tyler's father at some point tonight.
(Right now I'm in bed with a fever, and I need to re-do my entire schedule for the next 2 months.)
Just as a note, Lynn, Le Grand most definitely didn't “wish to be a good PI and solve a crime“ (yes, I detect your irony), since he planted evidence and manipulated the investigation with instrumentalized, fake witnesses. As for his father (of whom I'm not even sure if he was “absent“), it's rumored that he might have been a diplomat. Can you imagine the repercussions if this were true?

[lynn cates]

attitude

Hello Roy. Thanks for the photograph.

Thanks also for your healthy attitude. You are rightly skeptical about inflated claims about Le Grand, the Okhrana, Jenkinson, et al. That's as it should be. Right now, my research is merely nascent--there is much to weigh and consider. But I find it more interesting than, say, trying to add to a rogue's gallery and pin 5 murders on the new entry (to say nothing of trying to identify his distant father and over bearing mother).

On the other hand, you do not shut off discussion but keep an open mind. And, in like manner, I try to proceed with only minimal bias--when I find a piece that fits, I snap it into place; else, I throw it back.

For example: Tom's research indicates (as Maria says) that Le Grand spent much time and effort with the evidence and witnesses vis-a-vis Berner st. Why?

The 2 most likely answers:

1) He wished to be a good PI and solve a crime.

2) He wished to obtain a certain result.

If 2, why?

The 2 most likely answers:

1) He was involved in the crime.

2) A client was involved in the crime.

Obviously, the last intrigues me most.

There are so many pieces in the puzzle; and, I am trying to get a fit. What I CANNOT do is force a fit. It must be natural and all the pieces must fit into place with a snap. Too, the emerging picture must fit into the historical record and be consonant with the social/political/economic milieu of the period.

It is VERY hard work--and expensive.

Cheers.
LC

[lynn cates]

suggestion

Hello Maria.

"As for the SB ledgers entry, I wish we could identify more names from that entry pertaining to other cases (besides the alleged Mr Doughty), so that we could narrow it down chronologically."

That's an excellent idea. Debs has suggested it might involve proceedings from the Parnell inquiry.

As time permits, why not make a list of names from the ledger, and I can look into some of them--time permitting?

Cheers.
LC

[mariab]

Good evening, Roy Cordyroy.
I don't know either, and I'm not for conspiracy theories, but I think it won't hurt to try to also research the Okhrana realities, as they were certainly active in London when Rachkovsky came over from Paris. There's also this claim by Le Grand that he allegedly was active as a spy in the Parnell matter. I think it has been researched, with no results so far? Debra Arif will know.

[Roy Corduroy]

The part that has gotten my interest is that Lynn established that the Okhrana used to hire local detective agencies for their anti-socialist agenda. It's been established that “private detective“ Charles Le Grand put his foot firmly into the Berner Street investigation, manipulating witnesses and evidence, plus there are people (like Tom Wescott) who are suspicious that the Lusk kidney was a hoax generated by Joseph Aarons and Le Grand (to advertize the WVC).

Good evening, Maria

Yes, Russian agents had an anti-socialist agenda. The clues or signs in the Jewish East End the night of the double event certainly raised eyebrows then and still does. As to there being yet another dimension to the LeGrand involvement beyond what Tom has laid out, well, I don't know.

Roy

[mariab]

The rumor that Father Gapon might speak at the rally (many posts ago) was because he was in Stepney at the time. Here is Dunstan House from this Flickr Site.

Yes, that's exactly what the French spy report said about Father Gapone.
Might I inquire what was the Dunstan House? I've only heard about the publishing house Sampston Low (close to Fleet Street).(I'm a newbie.)