Jack the Catholic?!

[Natalie Severn]

Hi Jeff,
Well my parents christened me C of E.But when my mother was gravely ill my grandmother sent me to a convent where some of the nuns made quite a difference to my life.They were the best teachers that I had ever had! So although I am not religious ,I have some very positive memories of those particular women who were---as well as my dear grandmother who was Scottish Presbyterian!But I must admit your own gran had a lot of spirit Hey!

[Gman992]

Ah yes, the good old "evil" Jesuit theory? Right up there with the "evil" Jew theory...

[DVV]

"Ci-gît un confesseur jésuite,
Serre les fesses et passe vite."
Unknown

[John Savage]

Hello Stewart,

Thanks for that little snippet from W.T. Stead.

The most interesting part to me is " Mr. S thought that the ripper had induced the women to allow connection from behind".

I think that is good evidence that Stead new the true name of his correspondent Roslyn D@Onston.

Rgds
John

[ChrisGeorge]

Hello Stewart,

Thanks for that little snippet from W.T. Stead.

The most interesting part to me is " Mr. S thought that the ripper had induced the women to allow connection from behind".

I think that is good evidence that Stead new the true name of his correspondent Roslyn D@Onston.

Rgds
John

Yes but remember it was D'Onston's contention that it was Dr. Morgan Davies who was theorized that the Ripper was murdered Mary Jane Kelly while attempting connection from behind. This could be though as you say, a variation on that story, attributing the theory to Stephenson (D'Onston) rather than to Dr. Davies.

Chris

[The Good Michael]

Ah yes, the good old "evil" Jesuit theory? Right up there with the "evil" Jew theory...

There is no evil Jew theory. There is a story about a lower class immigrant who happens to be of Jewish descendency, but not one about someone who killed because he's Jewish; not a valid one anyway.

Mike

[The Good Michael]

Catholic Poland once held religious practices that today would be considered a violation of human rights towards women.

That reminds me, the entire creation of the Church of England was all about violation of rights as well. Even Shakespeare's family seems to have been suffering from a continuance of that. Yet, has there been a story of an Anglican priest involved? I'm sure there has been, and I seem to remember AP making some connection to that with Cutbush, but the details have escaped me.

Mike

[Stewart P Evans]

The Ernest Crawford Letter

Hello Stewart,
Thanks for that little snippet from W.T. Stead.
The most interesting part to me is " Mr. S thought that the ripper had induced the women to allow connection from behind".
I think that is good evidence that Stead new the true name of his correspondent Roslyn D@Onston.
Rgds
John

John, the only place this letter has ever been published is in Melvin Harris's 1994 book The True Face of Jack the Ripper. It is by no means certain that the 'Mr S' of the letter is Stead, but he seems the best fit in the light of what is known.

[Natalie Severn]

Mike,
If you read my first post on this you will see that I am referring to a common practice of the Catholic church in Poland in the 19th and 20th centuries.This method of "internally baptising "a foetus in distress ,which was well known to have been excruciatingly painful to the mother in particular ,was usually carried out by the priest when the mother was in her death agony.It was an unknown practice of the Church of England.[Or to those of the Polish Jewish faith I might add].

Such an invasive practice regarding a woman"s body corresponds slightly in "impact" if not "intent"[ofcourse not] to the internal injuries endured by Emma Smith. I also happen to believe Emma Smith was murdered by Jack the Ripper,someone who may have witnessed such invasive practices in Poland.
And I am not talking about Shakespeare"s time---just the last 100 to 150 years.

[The Good Michael]

Natalie,

Thanks for the clarification re: the Polish Catholic church.

Mike

[Natalie Severn]

Mike,I quite agree.This appears to have been a practice unique to Poland.
Thanks for your reply,
Norma

[DVV]

I also happen to believe Emma Smith was murdered by Jack the Ripper,someone who may have witnessed such invasive practices in Poland.

Hi Norma,

I too happen to consider Emma a Ripper victim.
But has this crime anything to do with Polish traditions ?
More of a mere sadistic deed to me, hatred of women, etc.
Of course, I see who you mean, no problem with that...
But take the example of DeSalvo, who wasn't a Pole...

Amitiés,
David

[Stephen Thomas]

So Jack the Ripper goes and confesses to the priest and gets told to do 25 Hail Marys. As if.

[Natalie Severn]

So Jack the Ripper goes and confesses to the priest and gets told to do 25 Hail Marys. As if.

Stephen,for goodness sake,-nobody has mentioned any such thing.Thats just a ridiculous misunderstanding of whats being thought about.

[Natalie Severn]

Hi Norma,

I too happen to consider Emma a Ripper victim.
But has this crime anything to do with Polish traditions ?
More of a mere sadistic deed to me, hatred of women, etc.
Of course, I see who you mean, no problem with that...
But take the example of DeSalvo, who wasn't a Pole...

Amitiés,
David

Hi David,
Well clearly this is just a thought.And I agree whoever attacked Emma Smith was being sadistic and revealing a hatred of women.But sometimes someone young and impressionable might have had their sadistic tendencies triggered into action by witnessing women in such pain and distress as happened in some cases of difficult birth in Poland when the priest had to be called in.
Cheers David
Norma