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  • Jack the Catholic?!

    Hello you all!

    No, I am not taking this option too seriously. In fact, I don't think, that any occult or religional theme played any part in Jack the Ripper's actions.

    But just out of interest;

    Has anyone ever made a theory based on Jack the Ripper being a catholic?!

    All the best
    Jukka
    "When I know all about everything, I am old. And it's a very, very long way to go!"

  • #2
    Jukka,

    I would have thought that the murders were somewhat Cromwellian rather than Catholic. Have you got any ideas?

    Mike
    huh?

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    • #3
      Hi Jukka,

      Televangelist murders, imo.

      Amitiés,
      David

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      • #4
        If he was a Catholic, it clearly didn't seem to matter much to him. Isn't there something in that faith about "thou shalt not kill?" So many people proclaim themselves to belong to whatever relgion in name only. Do a survey of any prison population in England or America and ask what everyone's religion is and the majority would probably say "Christian." Well, nobody's perfect but shouldn't that have at least kept them out of prison?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by kensei View Post
          Well, nobody's perfect but shouldn't that have at least kept them out of prison?
          Kensei,

          Religion often gives people license to transgress.

          Mike
          huh?

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          • #6
            Jesuit Theory

            There was a Jesuit theory doing the rounds over 100 years ago.
            SPE

            Treat me gently I'm a newbie.

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            • #7
              Hello you all!

              Well, Good Michael, I would say, that even Cromwell would have been throwing up!

              Stewart: Interesting. Something like the freemasons theory?!

              All the best
              Jukka
              "When I know all about everything, I am old. And it's a very, very long way to go!"

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              • #8
                Jesuit Theory

                Originally posted by j.r-ahde View Post
                ...
                Stewart: Interesting. Something like the freemasons theory?!
                All the best
                Jukka
                The theory is outlined below, it has been suggested that it was an idea of W. T. Stead's. It's dated 1907.

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                SPE

                Treat me gently I'm a newbie.

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                • #9
                  Jesuit

                  Originally posted by Stewart P Evans View Post
                  The theory is outlined below, it has been suggested that it was an idea of W. T. Stead's. It's dated 1907.

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                  In your opinion what would be the reason for wanting foreign detectives in the London police force?

                  Thank you,

                  curious

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by The Good Michael View Post
                    Kensei,

                    Religion often gives people license to transgress.

                    Mike
                    It depends, Mike...

                    Some posters are still alive cos I love God...

                    Amitiés,
                    David

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                    • #11
                      Catholic Poland once held religious practices that today would be considered a violation of human rights towards women.The Catholic Church there continued throughout the 19th century and well into the twentieth century with the practice of uterine baptism.This was performed by thrusting an instrument into the birth canal of a woman experiencing a difficult birth .The instrument contained holy water which could be squirted onto the infants head allowing the unborn child to be baptised in cases where the mother might die in childbirth.The practice caused enormous agony for women and was likely to have added to any underlying complications. It was written about extensively in ,"Generation of Vipers" by Philip Wylie.
                      It is one of the reasons why,in the past, I have looked closely at the Polish Catholic murderer and JtR suspect, Severin Klosowski /George Chapman,who,as an assistant surgeon in a Polish village for five years,probably witnessed numerous cases of foetal distress culminating in death to both mother and child ,including those where the priest was called to perform uterine baptism.
                      Klosowski went on to the Praga Hospital in Warsaw, where he took a short course in practical surgery which led to him being awarded the title of Junior Surgeon.Such a course might well have included him witnessing,even assisting surgeons at the hospital with the newly introduced "Caesarian sections" for certain cases of foetal distress, which would have included the opening up of the woman"s abdomen with the knife.
                      There were other Polish "Barber surgeons" like Klosowski in Whitechapel in 1888,one of the witnesses at his murder trial for example,Wolf Levisohn was trained in exactly the same way,and would probably have been exposed to the same kind of scenes.
                      Last edited by Natalie Severn; 02-13-2010, 06:15 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Natalie Severn View Post
                        Catholic Poland once held religious practices that today would be considered a violation of human rights towards women.The Catholic Church there continued throughout the 19th century and well into the twentieth century with the practice of uterine baptism.This was performed by thrusting an instrument into the birth canal of a woman experiencing a difficult birth .The instrument contained holy water which could be squirted onto the infants head allowing the unborn child to be baptised in cases where the mother might die in childbirth.The practice caused enormous agony for women and was likely to have added to any underlying complications. It was written about extensively in ,"Generation of Vipers" by Philip Wylie.
                        It is one of the reasons why,in the past, I have looked closely at the Polish Catholic murderer and JtR suspect, Severin Klosowski /George Chapman,who,as an assistant surgeon in a Polish village for five years,probably witnessed numerous cases of foetal distress culminating in death to both mother and child ,including those where the priest was called to perform uterine baptism.
                        Klosowski went on to the Praga Hospital in Warsaw, where he took a short course in practical surgery which led to him being awarded the title of Junior Surgeon.Such a course might well have included him witnessing,even assisting surgeons at the hospital with the newly introduced "Caesarian sections" for certain cases of foetal distress, which would have included the opening up of the woman"s abdomen with the knife.
                        There were other Polish "Barber surgeons" like Klosowski in Whitechapel in 1888,one of the witnesses at his murder trial for example,Wolf Levisohn was trained in exactly the same way,and would probably have been exposed to the same kind of scenes.
                        Santo subito !

                        Amitiés Norma,
                        David

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                        • #13
                          Indeed David my friend----

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Natalie Severn View Post
                            Catholic Poland once held religious practices that today would be considered a violation of human rights towards women.The Catholic Church there continued throughout the 19th century and well into the twentieth century with the practice of uterine baptism.This was performed by thrusting an instrument into the birth canal of a woman experiencing a difficult birth .The instrument contained holy water which could be squirted onto the infants head allowing the unborn child to be baptised in cases where the mother might die in childbirth.The practice caused enormous agony for women and was likely to have added to any underlying complications. It was written about extensively in ,"Generation of Vipers" by Philip Wylie.
                            It is one of the reasons why,in the past, I have looked closely at the Polish Catholic murderer and JtR suspect, Severin Klosowski /George Chapman,who,as an assistant surgeon in a Polish village for five years,probably witnessed numerous cases of foetal distress culminating in death to both mother and child ,including those where the priest was called to perform uterine baptism.
                            Klosowski went on to the Praga Hospital in Warsaw, where he took a short course in practical surgery which led to him being awarded the title of Junior Surgeon.Such a course might well have included him witnessing,even assisting surgeons at the hospital with the newly introduced "Caesarian sections" for certain cases of foetal distress, which would have included the opening up of the woman"s abdomen with the knife.
                            There were other Polish "Barber surgeons" like Klosowski in Whitechapel in 1888,one of the witnesses at his murder trial for example,Wolf Levisohn was trained in exactly the same way,and would probably have been exposed to the same kind of scenes.
                            Hi NAT

                            When my grandfather died, my Nan was left with nothing. She'd already been ostrosized (sorry cant spell) from her fathers side (Parnell's) (Church of England) the Catholic priest turned up and said he could not help unless my Aunts and Dad were baptised into the catholic faith.

                            She was four foot eleven but she picked him up and through him out the house head first.

                            He never came back.

                            Catholics are the lowest form of life. Prodestents are the second.

                            Pirate
                            Last edited by Jeff Leahy; 02-13-2010, 09:32 PM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Pirate Jack View Post
                              Hi NAT

                              When my grandfather died, my Nan was left with nothing. She'd already been ostrosized (sorry cant spell) from her fathers side (Parnell's) (Church of England) the Catholic priest turned up and said he could not help unless my Aunts and Dad were baptised into the catholic faith.

                              She was four foot eleven but she picked him up and through him out the house head first.

                              He never came back.

                              Catholics are the lowest form of life. Prodestents are the second.

                              Pirate
                              ???
                              I prodest!

                              Amitiés,
                              David

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