"A very remarkable private investigation" 1891 - info required

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  • Chris Scott
    Chief Inspector
    • Feb 2008
    • 1853

    #1

    "A very remarkable private investigation" 1891 - info required

    The short article below is from the North China Herald of 10 April 1891:

    "The Daily News gives an account of a very remarkable private investigation into the Whitechapel murders, by which the murderer might have been discovered, if the police when informed had acted a little more promptly."

    I have searched the Daily News for March and early April of 1891 for any mention of the Whitechapel murders. The only relevant story in that period was the final discharge of Sadler.
    Does anyone know what story this refers to and the date of the Daily News article mentioned?
    Many thanks for any help
    Chris S
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  • Mike Covell
    Superintendent
    • Feb 2008
    • 2957

    #2
    I took the liberty of searching Feb 1891 in the Daily News, and found the following,
    Sadler and Frances Coles related
    Daily News (London, England), Saturday, February 14, 1891
    Daily News (London, England), Saturday, February 14, 1891
    Daily News (London, England), Monday, February 16, 1891 (man seen with bloody clothes)
    Daily News (London, England), Monday, February 16, 1891
    Daily News (London, England), Tuesday, February 17, 1891
    Daily News (London, England), Tuesday, February 17, 1891 (police are looking for a man from Wolverhampton)
    Daily News (London, England), Wednesday, February 18, 1891
    Daily News (London, England), Wednesday, February 18, 1891
    Daily News (London, England), Saturday, February 21, 1891
    Daily News (London, England), Tuesday, February 24, 1891
    Daily News (London, England), Wednesday, February 25, 1891
    Daily News (London, England), Thursday, February 26, 1891
    Daily News (London, England), Friday, February 27, 1891 (Sudden death of Charles Guiver)
    Daily News (London, England), Saturday, February 28, 1891

    Hope these help Chris.
    Regards Mike

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    • Chris Scott
      Chief Inspector
      • Feb 2008
      • 1853

      #3
      Many thanks for that Mike
      I'm still in the dark as to what this "remarkable private investigation" is though
      regards
      Chris
      Last edited by Chris Scott; 01-20-2010, 08:44 PM.

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      • Mike Covell
        Superintendent
        • Feb 2008
        • 2957

        #4
        The story featured in the Daily News, Monday, February 16, 1891 regarding the man seen leaving Wolves is interesting.
        Regards Mike

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        • Tom_Wescott
          Commissioner
          • Feb 2008
          • 6999

          #5
          Hi Chris,

          Do you think it might relate to Bachert, his alleged sighting, and his confrontation with coroner Baxter?

          Yours truly,

          Tom Wescott

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          • j.r-ahde
            Inspector
            • Feb 2008
            • 1148

            #6
            Hello you all!

            A very interesting piece of information, thanks, Chris and Mike!

            Hopefully seeing more info on the remarkable private investigation!

            All the best
            Jukka
            "When I know all about everything, I am old. And it's a very, very long way to go!"

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            • Debra A
              Assistant Commissioner
              • Feb 2008
              • 3504

              #7
              Chris, Mike
              Maybe you could check out the daily News of Friday, February 20, 1891

              I saw this but haven't time to check the other columns at the moment.

              In another column will be found an account of some
              remarkable private investigaions made in reference
              to the previous Whitechapel murders.

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              • Chris Scott
                Chief Inspector
                • Feb 2008
                • 1853

                #8
                Hi Debs
                many thanks for that and I will look at that asap
                Regards
                Chris

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                • Tom_Wescott
                  Commissioner
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 6999

                  #9
                  You da man, Debs! This thread is getting very intriguing.

                  Yours truly,

                  Tom Wescott

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                  • Chris Scott
                    Chief Inspector
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 1853

                    #10
                    Many thanks indeed Debs
                    The "investigation" in question is in fact the cattle boats theory
                    I'll post the article shortly
                    Thanks again
                    Chris

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                    • Chris Scott
                      Chief Inspector
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 1853

                      #11
                      Here is the first part
                      Daily News
                      20 Feb 1891
                      Attached Files

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                      • Chris Scott
                        Chief Inspector
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 1853

                        #12
                        Here is the rest
                        Thanks again Debs - if only all queries were resolved so quickly:-)
                        Attached Files

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                        • Phil Carter
                          Commissioner
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 4270

                          #13
                          Hello Chris, all,

                          Umm, 'scuse me butting in here, but I think I am correct in saying that a fellow named Dr. Dennis Gratwick theorised that Jack was a North Sea Fisherman...unidentified. And again, memory permits me to think of this suspect identified by Andy Aliffe? Cant remember who atm.

                          Wonder if that has anything to do with this?

                          Just a thought

                          best wishes

                          Phil
                          Last edited by Phil Carter; 01-20-2010, 10:19 PM.
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                          • DVV
                            Suspended
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 6014

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Phil Carter View Post
                            I think I am correct in saying that a fellow named Dr. Dennis Gratwick theorised that Jack was a North Sea Fisherman...unidentified.
                            Phil
                            Don't tell Ben.

                            Amitiés,
                            David

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                            • Debra A
                              Assistant Commissioner
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 3504

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Chris Scott View Post
                              Many thanks indeed Debs
                              The "investigation" in question is in fact the cattle boats theory
                              I'll post the article shortly
                              Thanks again
                              Chris
                              Thanks for finding and posting it, Chris
                              I was hoping it was going to be something more interesting though!

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