Spirit Mediums and the Whitechapel Murders.

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  • Mike Covell
    Superintendent
    • Feb 2008
    • 2957

    #1

    Spirit Mediums and the Whitechapel Murders.

    The following is taken from the Birmingham Daily Post, dated October 10th 1888 and show's alleged Spirit Mediums trying to help the police during the period.
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    Regards Mike
  • JTRSickert
    Detective
    • Aug 2009
    • 440

    #2
    "We came; we saw; we kicked it's ass" LOL

    Maybe that's what the mediums said having a session.
    I won't make any deals. I've resigned. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed,de-briefed, or numbered!

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    • Mike Covell
      Superintendent
      • Feb 2008
      • 2957

      #3
      My son's fave film!
      Regards Mike

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      • JTRSickert
        Detective
        • Aug 2009
        • 440

        #4
        One thing, Mike, did this alleged instance happen before or after Robert Lees came to the police and offered his assistance in trying to capture the murderer? If before, do you think he might have read the article and decided to see if he could get some press attention or possibly boost his "business" by trying to help the police as well?
        I won't make any deals. I've resigned. I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed,de-briefed, or numbered!

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        • Mike Covell
          Superintendent
          • Feb 2008
          • 2957

          #5
          You would have to aim that question at Jenni Sheldon, she is the Lees expert.
          Regards Mike

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          • ghoulstonstreet
            Detective
            • Jan 2009
            • 150

            #6
            Hmm

            As wacky as it sounds, one still wonders who showed up at 10PM at 9 Berner St. (It was a fairly well travelled area)

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            • Rob Clack
              Inactive
              • Feb 2008
              • 1708

              #7
              Just spoted this in The Western Mail, 8 October 1888.
              Not sure if it's been seen before.

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              Rob

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              • Mike Covell
                Superintendent
                • Feb 2008
                • 2957

                #8
                Hi Rob, I have a few different versions of that report, it's certainly very interested and I am sure it's published in one of the books that provide an overview of the case, I just can't remember which one!
                Regards Mike

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                • smezenen
                  Detective
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 378

                  #9
                  Under the influence.....of liquid spirits....and more than a couple pints if you ask me.
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                  'Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways - beer in one hand - chocolate in the other - body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming 'WOO HOO, What a Ride!'

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                  • Rob Clack
                    Inactive
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 1708

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Mike Covell View Post
                    Hi Rob, I have a few different versions of that report, it's certainly very interested and I am sure it's published in one of the books that provide an overview of the case, I just can't remember which one!
                    Hi Mike,

                    If it was published it sounds like it would have been an Underwood or Harris book. It doesn't ring a bell with with me though.

                    Rob

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                    • Mike Covell
                      Superintendent
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 2957

                      #11
                      Hi Rob, I don't think it was Harris, although he has a chapter on Robert Lees in his books that were released prior to the Ripper books so it could be.
                      Regards Mike

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                      • Rob Clack
                        Inactive
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 1708

                        #12
                        I think that would be 'Sorry you've been duped' which I believe originally appeared in 'The Unexplained' part work.

                        Rob

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                        • Mike Covell
                          Superintendent
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 2957

                          #13
                          Hi Rob, Sorry You've Been Duped, and Investigating the Unexplained are the same books, however, they have different publishers, and were distributed in the UK (Sorry) and USA (Investigating) respectively.

                          Harris devotes a chapter to Lees entitled I Captured Jack the Ripper, and The Yorkshire Ripper and Mediums in another chapter.

                          Although Harris wrote for The Unexplained-Mysteries of Time and Space, I don't recall these articles in the part works, I have the full collection including some wonderful Jack the Ripper related ones.

                          Harris also covers the lost regiment which was earlier debunked in the same part works by a young man by the name of Paul Begg!

                          I can't work out where I have seen it now, and have poured over Harris, Sugden, Begg and still cannot find it, although there are a fair few versions here,

                          Regards Mike

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                          • Rob Clack
                            Inactive
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 1708

                            #14
                            Hi Mike,

                            Harris wrote 'The Murders and the Medium' I'm fairly certain for 'The Unexplained' part work. I've only got the pages now and it starts on page 2438 of the ones I have and I thought he used that as a chapter in 'Sorry you've been duped' I haven't got it now and it's been over twenty years since I read it so I could be wrong.

                            Rob

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                            • Mike Covell
                              Superintendent
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 2957

                              #15
                              Found it Rob, Cheers. Volumne 8, Issue 122, pages 2421 to 2440, with the Peter Sutcliffe section begining, as you rightly point out, at page 2438.

                              All the material regarding the ripper in the magazine seems to be by Francis King, who also covered black magic, Crowley, and Blavatsky.
                              Regards Mike

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