Most ridiculous suspect

[Trevor Marriott]

Fair enough. I was wrong in that I don’t think that Trevor had stated his case with such certainly.

Proof again that, unlike some, I have no problem in admitting an error when provide with the facts in black and white.

As Tristan has said, we have no need to continue on these points. The facts are in black and white for all to read and form there own judgment should they wish to. I’m quite happy with that.

Just to make it clear to one and all my stance on Feigenbaum is that he could have been responsible for one,some or all of the murders. and if Fishy had bothered to read my book he would have seen thats what i have postulated and appears at the end of the chapter on Feigenbaum

www.trevormarriott.co.uk

[Herlock Sholmes]

Just to make it clear to one and all my stance on Feigenbaum is that he could have been responsible for one,some or all of the murders. and if Fishy had bothered to read my book he would have seen thats what i have postulated and appears at the end of the chapter on Feigenbaum

www.trevormarriott.co.uk

I have read your book Trevor and I couldn’t recall you stating that he was definitely guilty.

[Abby Normal]

I love that your leading candidates are listed under the very luke warm heading "most least weak"!!!

I take your point and agree completely, but your caution there made me smile!

On balance our tiers look fairly similar.

I'd swap a couple of names around (I'm not sure that Feigenbaum and Issenschmidt deserve full-blown crackpot status) and I'd swap Druitt and Chapman around in the higher tiers.

I remember thinking that Donston and Francis Thompson were rather silly suspects, so I would maybe put them in the "pretty redic" category.

I pass no judgement on Maybrick as that feels like a whole other thing which I know little about.

By and large we're singing from a very similar hymn sheet though!

For the purposes of this thread, I'd say PAV/Gull/Royal conspiracy, Jill the Ripper, Van Gogh, Lewis Carroll & John Merrick would get my votes for Most Ridiculous Suspect.

cheer diddy!
Issenschmidt was incarcerated after chapman, and feigenbaum cant even be placed in the country at the time so they are both most definitely ridiculous suspects. Feigenbut wasnt ever suspected or person of interest by the police, has no ties whatsoever to the case or even England for that matter, was an after the fact "suspect", mentioned by his lawyer lol.Im sorry hes out. but hey if it makes you feel better, at least they are both not on my Most ridiculous tier : )

FT was a failed medical student who wrote about mutilating prostitutes, was jilted by one, lived on the streets of WC and at one time during the autumn of terror lived on Dorset street and was known to carry a dissecting scalpel. Donston was a shady character, had some medical training, was suspected at the time and brought to the attention of the police and wrote letters to police and press about the case and was also living in WC during the crimes. fascinating charactors and FT is even kind of famous as a poet, but as I admit they are long shots but IMHO def NOT crackpot/ridiculous suspects, they tick alot of boxes.

[MrBarnett]

cheer diddy!
Issenschmidt was incarcerated after chapman, and feigenbaum cant even be placed in the country at the time so they are both most definitely ridiculous suspects. Feigenbut wasnt ever suspected or person of interest by the police, has no ties whatsoever to the case or even England for that matter, was an after the fact "suspect", mentioned by his lawyer lol.Im sorry hes out. but hey if it makes you feel better, at least they are both not on my Most ridiculous tier : )

FT was a failed medical student who wrote about mutilating prostitutes, was jilted by one, lived on the streets of WC and at one time during the autumn of terror lived on Dorset street and was known to carry a dissecting scalpel. Donston was a shady character, had some medical training, was suspected at the time and brought to the attention of the police and wrote letters to police and press about the case and was also living in WC during the crimes. fascinating charactors and FT is even kind of famous as a poet, but as I admit they are long shots but IMHO def NOT crackpot/ridiculous suspects, they tick alot of boxes.

Hi Abby,

Did Thompson write about mutilating prostitutes? I think that may just be Richard Patterson’s interpretation of things. There is no firm evidence that Thompson was living in Dorset Street in the autumn of 1888, or more generally on the streets of Whitechapel. The suggestion that he carried a scalpel is based on a comment he made about once having shaved with one - that could have been at any time from when he was a student.

[Ms Diddles]

It's a while since I read up on Thompson or Donstan.

I should probably refresh my memory, but I do recall reading about both suspects in the past and thinking "Nah! Nae chance!".

[Abby Normal]

It's a while since I read up on Thompson or Donstan.

I should probably refresh my memory, but I do recall reading about both suspects in the past and thinking "Nah! Nae chance!".

i did say long shots! : )

[Abby Normal]

Hi Abby,

Did Thompson write about mutilating prostitutes? I think that may just be Richard Patterson’s interpretation of things. There is no firm evidence that Thompson was living in Dorset Street in the autumn of 1888, or more generally on the streets of Whitechapel. The suggestion that he carried a scalpel is based on a comment he made about once having shaved with one - that could have been at any time from when he was a student.

hi gary
there was a poster on here that was a FT guy. he made alot of strong points and backed up all that stuff. maybe you can dig him up and or the defense of those points. as I said long shot.

[MrBarnett]

hi gary
there was a poster on here that was a FT guy. he made alot of strong points and backed up all that stuff. maybe you can dig him up and or the defense of those points. as I said long shot.

I think that was probably Richard Patterson. I have his Thompson book and I was intrigued enough by Thompson as a suspect that I bought his complete works and a couple of biographies of the man. There is little or nothing of any substance that points to Thompson as a suspect and Patterson over eggs what little there is. The scalpel thing is a case in point. As I say, Thompson once mentioned that he had used a scalpel to shave with, he didn’t say when. Based on that Patterson gives the impression that Thompson was wandering around Whitechapel in 1888 with a scalpel in his pocket.

[Ms Diddles]

i did say long shots! : )

Ha! Agreed! You'd need super magnifying sights on your gun to take down those bad boys!

[FISHY1118]

Just to make it clear to one and all my stance on Feigenbaum is that he could have been responsible for one,some or all of the murders. and if Fishy had bothered to read my book he would have seen thats what i have postulated and appears at the end of the chapter on Feigenbaum

www.trevormarriott.co.uk

^{Why read a book thats titled'' The Final Truth'' if you postulate about its contents ? is not the truth anything that is factual ?}

[Herlock Sholmes]

I think that was probably Richard Patterson. I have his Thompson book and I was intrigued enough by Thompson as a suspect that I bought his complete works and a couple of biographies of the man. There is little or nothing of any substance that points to Thompson as a suspect and Patterson over eggs what little there is. The scalpel thing is a case in point. As I say, Thompson once mentioned that he had used a scalpel to shave with, he didn’t say when. Based on that Patterson gives the impression that Thompson was wandering around Whitechapel in 1888 with a scalpel in his pocket.

Wasn’t there also a pamphlet on Thompson Gary or am I confusing this with another suspect?

[Trevor Marriott]

cheer diddy!
Issenschmidt was incarcerated after chapman, and feigenbaum cant even be placed in the country at the time so they are both most definitely ridiculous suspects. Feigenbut wasnt ever suspected or person of interest by the police, has no ties whatsoever to the case or even England for that matter, was an after the fact "suspect", mentioned by his lawyer lol.Im sorry hes out. but hey if it makes you feel better, at least they are both not on my Most ridiculous tier : )

But he can be placed in London at the time of the murders the following is an extract from his lawyers statement

,"when I saw him again I mentioned the Whitechapel murders to which he replied, “The lord was responsible for my acts, and that to him only could I confess.” I was so startled that for the moment I did not know what to do I then looked up the dates of the Whitechapel murders and selected two. When I saw Feigenbaum again and was talking with him I said: "Carl, were you in London from this date to that one," naming those selected. "Yes", he answered, and relapsed into silence. I then communicated with London and discovered that Feigenbaum was also there when other women fell victim to the knife of some mysterious assassin.”

https://www.trevormarriott.co.uk

[jmenges]

Wasn’t there also a pamphlet on Thompson Gary or am I confusing this with another suspect?

Thompson was first named a suspect in a 1988 article by Dr. Joseph Rupp in The Criminologist.

JM

[GUT]

I have long believed that suspect based ripperology needs to clear those named by contemporary police before looking at witnesses, celebrities etc. After all those officers had material available to them that we know nothing of, as it is lost to us.

To date no one can eliminate
Tumblety
Druitt
Koslowski
with any certainty, all sorts arguments against them, but not eliminated.

[C. F. Leon]

I have long believed that suspect based ripperology needs to clear those named by contemporary police before looking at witnesses, celebrities etc. After all those officers had material available to them that we know nothing of, as it is lost to us.

To date no one can eliminate
Tumblety
Druitt
Koslowski
with any certainty, all sorts arguments against them, but not eliminated.

Um, do you mean "Kosminski" (MacNaughton's suspect) or "Klosowski" (aka George Chapman)?