Most ridiculous suspect

[Trevor Marriott]

absolute balderdash! a person who cant even be placed in england during autumn of terror, accused by his lawyer lol vs a contemporary police suspect who had info of his quilt by family members whom we know he had ties to, who lived in London and whos death coincides with the end of the c5. yeah theyre a million miles apart thats for sure, but the other way around.

if you cant even place a suspect in the area at the time they are for all intents and purposes a pretty ridiculous suspect.
and anyway we all know your just doing your usual bizarre stalking of herlock to wind him up. we all see it and its rather sad. you really need to stop this nonsense.

You need to read post#381

[Herlock Sholmes]

See post #385

Why would Mac lie?

[Herlock Sholmes]

Trevor, whatever Lawton said was uncorroborated. No one else heard it. That’s the definition of uncorroborated. For all that we know he might have simply made this up. I’m not saying that he did, but he might have done and let’s face it, he went to the papers rather than the police which might imply a desire for publicity over justice. You might say “why would he?” So I’ll ask “why would Mac have lied?” “Why pick an apparently non-violent, non-criminal, non-women hating, non-Whitechapel resident if he was simply making stuff up?” None of us know.

[Abby Normal]

Trevor, whatever Lawton said was uncorroborated. No one else heard it. That’s the definition of uncorroborated. For all that we know he might have simply made this up. I’m not saying that he did, but he might have done and let’s face it, he went to the papers rather than the police which might imply a desire for publicity over justice. You might say “why would he?” So I’ll ask “why would Mac have lied?” “Why pick an apparently non-violent, non-criminal, non-women hating, non-Whitechapel resident if he was simply making stuff up?” None of us know.

exactly herlock, its rather ironic that trevor calls basically everything unsafe to rely on, and yet has latched on to probably the flimsiest unsafe evidence to put forth a "suspect". one that cant even be placed in the freaking country during the crimes.

[Trevor Marriott]

Trevor, whatever Lawton said was uncorroborated. No one else heard it. That’s the definition of uncorroborated. For all that we know he might have simply made this up. I’m not saying that he did, but he might have done and let’s face it, he went to the papers rather than the police which might imply a desire for publicity over justice. You might say “why would he?” So I’ll ask “why would Mac have lied?” “Why pick an apparently non-violent, non-criminal, non-women hating, non-Whitechapel resident if he was simply making stuff up?” None of us know.

There is no corroboration for Anderson mcnaghten no corroboration for the mythical ID parade Swanson describes yet researchers readily accept what they said as if it were gospel

Feigenbaum was a thief and a killer and by his antecedents remains a suspect to be considered above all the others

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[The Baron]

[QUOTE=Abby Normal;n783672]


>>absolute balderdash!

Wrong, its called logical reasoning


>>a person who

Wrong, he is a convicted woman murderer with a knife.


>>cant even be placed in england during autumn of terror

Wrong, his ship was there, and it may still possible to track him down


>>accused by his lawyer lol

This is a strong evidence against him so your lol is Wrong.


>>vs a contemporary police suspect

Wrong, Druitts name as a suspect came later


>>who had info of his quilt

Wrong , he doesnt have information of his guilt, all he had is what a fourth person (at least) told him about a possible doubt of his family


>>by family members

Wrong it was at least a fourth person, Macnaghten didn't took his information direct from the family.


>>whom we know he had ties to

Wrong, we don't know who the informer was, and he was not a close friend of the family


>>who lived in London

His schedule very much rules him out


>>and whos death coincides with the end of the c5.

The c5 is a term created by Macnaghten himself to support his theory, Mckenzie murder rules Druitt out, so Wrong again.


>>yeah theyre a million miles apart thats for sure, but the other way around.

Wrong again, its the same way.


if you want to defend someone then do better, try to lessen the errors in those arguments as a first step.




The Baron

[Trevor Marriott]

exactly herlock, its rather ironic that trevor calls basically everything unsafe to rely on, and yet has latched on to probably the flimsiest unsafe evidence to put forth a "suspect". one that cant even be placed in the freaking country during the crimes.

Can you prove he wasn’t?

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[Herlock Sholmes]

There is no corroboration for Anderson mcnaghten no corroboration for the mythical ID parade Swanson describes yet researchers readily accept what they said as if it were gospel

Feigenbaum was a thief and a killer and by his antecedents remains a suspect to be considered above all the others (in your opinion)

https://www.trevormarriott.co.uk

And Lawton’s statement about him was uncorroborated.

[Herlock Sholmes]

. >>who lived in London

His schedule very much rules him out

100% untrue.

The kind of desperate invention that some posters sadly have to resort to on this subject.

[Herlock Sholmes]

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>>and whos death coincides with the end of the c5.

The c5 is a term created by Macnaghten himself to support his theory, Mckenzie murder rules Druitt out, so Wrong again.

100% untrue.

Another desperate invention by claiming as a certainty (Mackenzie as a victim) when it’s unknown.

The kind of desperate invention that some posters have to resort to on this subject.

[Herlock Sholmes]

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>>accused by his lawyer lol

This is a strong evidence against him so your lol is Wrong

Without his Lawyers ‘statement’ no one would have mention him. There isn’t a single, solitary fact that connects him to the Whitechapel murders. The fact that he was a murderer in America doesn’t qualify.

He murdered a non-prostitute.
Not in the streets.
In a room where someone else was present.
He didn’t mutilate.

In America.

More desperation.

[Herlock Sholmes]

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>>cant even be placed in england during autumn of terror

Wrong, his ship was there, and it may still possible to track him down

No, Abby is 100% correct. He cannot, repeat cannot be placed in England at the time.

The kind of desperate invention that some posters have to resort to on this subject.

[Herlock Sholmes]

I’ve asked this before but why is it that on the subject of Druitt some posters are so desperate to dismiss him that it leads them to manipulate, ignore and lie. They twist, bend, contort and distort in all manner of frankly embarrassing ways. WHY?

Some posters need to stop being dishonest and utterly embarrassingly pathetic and get a grip. Some don’t find Druitt a strong suspect. Fine, who cares, so what. We’ve heard your boring nonsense a million times over. If your not interested in this particular part of the case why don’t you do the whole Ripperological world a favour and simply let it go and make posts on stamp collecting or badger grooming. I know that your humongous egos might not allow this or that you that your trolling hobby might be ruined but that’s just tough. If you have to resort to making things up to make your points then rock bottom has long ago been scraped.

[Herlock Sholmes]

All that we should hope is that suspects are considered fairly, open-mindedly and by applying various criteria and criticisms reasonably and consistent to all suspects. But is that what we get from some quarters?

No one else saw or heard MacNaugten receiving his ‘private info,’ - so this is a problem.

No one else saw or heard Lawton being told by Feigenbaum that he had a desire to kill and mutilate women, yet this isn’t a problem.

MacNaughten wasn’t a career police officer which makes him incompetent to make any judgment calls, and this is a problem.

Robert Anderson also wasn’t a career police officer, but that isn’t a problem.

We have no way of confirming the validity of MacNaghten’s private information, and that is a problem.

Not one single officer, apart from Anderson and his subordinate mentions or confirms that any identification of the ripper ever occurred, and this isn’t a problem.

The minor errors like calling Druitt a Doctor and saying he was 41 instead of 31 are a big problem.

The discrepancies in what Anderson said about Kosminski and what is known to have occurred apparently isn’t a problem.

Druitt can’t be physically placed in Whitechapel and that is a problem.

Feigenbaum can’t even be placed in the country and that isn’t a problem.

Druitt wasn’t known to have been violent and that is a problem.

Apart from brandishing a knife at his sister (in law?) but not actually harming her we have no evidence that Kosminski was ever violent and that is no problem.

Druitt had no known links to women which meant that he might have been gay which is a problem.

Kosminski had no known link to women but that isn’t a problem.

Druitt was dead when Mackenzie died and this is a problem.

Kosminski was in Colney Hatch when Coles was murdered but this isn’t a problem.


Does anyone see a kind of pattern here?

Perhaps I’m expecting too much from some?

[Trevor Marriott]

No, Abby is 100% correct. He cannot, repeat cannot be placed in England at the time.

The kind of desperate invention that some posters have to resort to on this subject.

There is no desparation only by those who want to eliminate him

Just because there is no physical evidnce to show categorically that he was in London at the the times of the canonical murders, you cannot say he was not in London because you have no evidence to show where he was at the times of those murders.

There are inferences that can be drawn from the other facts and evidence to suggest he was and he is a much better suspect than your Druitt

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