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  • Sam Flynn
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    Originally posted by Robert View Post
    That aside, Kelly's age has no bearing if like me you consider that Jack simply entered the room unaware of who or what he would find inside.
    Assuming he had, Rob, I doubt that he'd have thought, "Curses! Not old enough!", mumbled an apology about being in the wrong flat, and left in search of a middle-aged woman.

    We can surely discount the ages of the victims as a defining factor, given that there would have been more knackered fortysomethings on the streets than twentysomethings. The latter would have had better job prospects, and hence more likely to be able to afford lodgings. In addition, a twentysomething wouldn't yet have progressed as far down the slippery slope of alcoholism, and more likely to have had a boyfriend, husband or a family to support her. Kelly, of course, was an exception to this... she had a lot more in common with the other WM victims than one might think if one focused solely on her age.

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  • Robert
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    Hi Michael

    I'm not going to write a long essay. I'll just take one of the points you mention - the age. Does anyone really think that Jack only wanted to kill and mutilate middle-aged women? So that in effect he was thinking to himself "I'll let you escape, because you're young. I'll kill you, you're old. You look like you're in your 30s - please wait a moment while I consider my options"?

    That aside, Kelly's age has no bearing if like me you consider that Jack simply entered the room unaware of who or what he would find inside.

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  • Jon Guy
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    Originally posted by perrymason View Post
    I know for myself I take a lot of abuse here for suggesting since my arrival here a few years back that the Canonical Group is a flawed and baseless premise by which to construct a Ripper search.
    To be fair, Mike, it is only you who is constantly mentioning and questioning the Canonical five.


    [/QUOTE]What physical evidence links all 5 of these killings to one killer?[/QUOTE]

    Medical evidence links four of the victims to one killer.
    Last edited by Jon Guy; 06-07-2009, 11:31 AM.

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  • perrymason
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    Hello all,

    I know for myself I take a lot of abuse here for suggesting since my arrival here a few years back that the Canonical Group is a flawed and baseless premise by which to construct a Ripper search.

    I feel that at the very least 1 woman can be excluded summarily based on the fact that the death is unlike a Ripper murder and mutilation....the combination of the 2 is what defines his activities. Its cutting into people he kills that separates these crimes from any average knife murder,....like 2 of three throat cutting deaths seem to be on the "Double" Event night.

    I also believe that the last murder has factors which supersede some similarities in the mutilation phase...in that the victim was half the age of priors, likely sleeping when she meets her killer in her own bed and room, and the only organ taken from both victim number 2 and 4 is left behind.

    A recent really rude remark made my way prompted this post, if you want the source see the general victims discussion thread, but the gist of the post directed at me suggested I should provide proof that they should be excluded or I should stop saying it.

    The poster forgot that these are all officially unsolved murders.

    But, in case you agree.....Here's the opportunity for any and all who feel they can make a legitimate case with supporting evidence for a single killer of just these 5 women, and all of the 5 women.

    As most of us know, Legal Guilt is assigned based on evidence, and suggested links to a single killer would be based on the physical evidence or behaviors.

    My stance.... and that of many others including one of the most respected names in this field, is that I'd be happy to consider any victim that seems to fit with Polly and Annies murder style and content. But I can only see 2 or perhaps 3 of 5 that meet that criteria.

    Prove me wrong.

    What physical evidence links all 5 of these killings to one killer?

    Id ask that anyone with a grudge towards me send me a message rather than post it here..no-one cares to read that kind of thing anyway.

    Best regards all.
    Last edited by Guest; 06-06-2009, 11:26 PM.
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