I'd Bet My Bottom Dollar That...

[Mrsperfect]

Tell The Truth!

Can I recomend a book called 'Will the real Mary Kelly' which I have just read. It was very imformative.

I have to say that when I read this, I almost imagined it would finish with

Will the real Mary Kelly ................please stand up!

I remember the game show that was on in the UK (many eons ago) 'Tell the Truth' where they had three contestants and two were lying. You had to guess the real one, after asking a few questions. it always finished with:

Will the real ............................ please stand up!

Eileen

[Mrsperfect]

My Thoughts!

I will bet my last dollar that;

1) Sam will never name a suspect

2) JtR never killed more than one victim per night

3) Not all suspect-based books are completely wrong

4) JtR resided just outside the immediate area

Eileen

[corey123]

I bet my bottom dollar that Jack the Ripper will never be known.

[Phil Carter]

I think it's more about what we generally feel to be "red herrings", Mitch. In that case, my bottom-dollar bet would be that there isn't a single suspect-based book that has identified the man who really was JTR.

Hello all,

For once, and yes, put the flags out folks, I am in total agreement with Sam.
I don't think the actual name of the killer(s) has been said or mentioned in a suspect based book either.

But I'll bet MY bottom krone (Norway) that within 4 years (the 125th anniversary) that the historically known facts around the case will have changed completely.

And even being a lifelong Chelsea supporter, I would never put money on Chelsea winning the league either, at any time....

kind regards,

Åhil

[Limehouse]

I would bet strongly that if the majority of us met JtR in a pub in Commercial Street we would find him an enjoyable person to spend time with. He would make pleasant conversation about nothing in particular but would not linger too long. He would be happy in his own company, but sociable enough to engage and connect with people.

Dig a bit deeper and you might find someone rather disappointed with life. Someone who felt he could have done better if only this or that had not happened or this or that person had not thwarted him.

Dig deeper still, and you might uncover someone who had been (and might still have been) a peeping tom. Someone excited but also perhaps disgusted by casual sex.

[DVV]

Hi Limehouse,

very interesting. I defenitely agree with your second paragraph, and can agree also with the first.
No real problem with your last idea, it could be, but what makes you think of a peeping-Jack?

Amitiés,
David

[Dave James]

Juwes

And I'd bet my bottom AND my bottom dollar that some people *COUGH*Stephen Knight*COUGH* read waaaaaaaaay too deep into the "Juwes" graffiti.

Hi!
Although this may be irrellevent, with regards to the Juwes, which the Masons said had nothing to do with them after the Knight book, I ame across this in 'The Hiram Key' by Christopher Knight and Robert Lomas 1996.
" The three villains who murdered Hiram Abif ... (were) known jointly as the Juwes; pronounced Joo-ees." P16.
Both the authors are practicing Masons.
Perhaps Steven Knight at least got that bit right!
Regards Dave

[lynn cates]

certainties

Hello All. Right. I'll take the plunge.

I am nearly certain that "Jack":

1. Killed somewhere between 1 and 14 ladies in the east end between 1888-1891 (or thereabouts).

2. Was male, female or hermaphroditic.

3. Was right-handed; or left-handed; or, perhaps, ambidextrous.

4. Was a police suspect; or, a local unknown; or, someone else.

5. Did or did not write one or more letters concerning his alleged crimes.

6. Was known by Scotland Yard or perhaps not.

7. Acted with some motivation.

8. Did or did not remove organs.

9. Will or will not later be identified.

There now. I've gone out on a limb, but I hope I've imparted enough certainty to make even Descartes happy.

Cheers.
LC

[Phil Carter]

Lynn,


Careful now Lynn, coming down one side or the other could stamp you for life!
To add.. May or may not have played cricket or another ball game...

Quote Monty Python..

Rene Descartes was a drunken fart who was very rarely stable...

best wishes

Phil

[DVV]

8. Did or did not remove organs.

LC

No, Lynn,

the man we call JtR is the one who killed Annie Chapman (the "benchmark").
And Chapman did have organs removed.

Amitiés,
David

[lynn cates]

firmness

Hello Phil. Right. Well, sometimes you have to break a few eggs to make an omelet. I feel like Luther, "This is where I take my stand. I can do no other."

(It seems to me that Socrates had a permanent condition, but I cannot recall what it was, precisely. Any ideas?)

The best.
LC

[lynn cates]

qualificatory question

Hello DVV. Ah! She did indeed. But don't forget Trevor's thesis and the question, Was it ante or post a trip to the morgue?

The best.
LC

[DVV]

Hi Lynn,

would you be surprized if tell you that it was before the trip ?
For the sake of clarity I will add that her organs weren't in Davis' pocket, nor in Richardson's or Chandler's.
And contrary to what is always said, her body hasn't been strpped and washed, but only stripped.

Amitiés,
David

[Sox]

I'd Bet My Bottom Dollar That...

Nichols,Chapman,Stride,Eddowes & Kelly were all killed by the same individual.

The Killer lived or worked locally.

The Killer knew (or was at least acquainted with) one or more of the victims.

The Police had no idea who the killer was.

[lynn cates]

don't let down the side

Hello DVV.

"would you be surpri[s]ed if I tell you that it was before the trip?"

Not at all. Indeed, I'd be disappointed if you did not. It would be like letting down the side.

The best.
LC