My profile of the ripper

[Harry D]

the kidney is mentioned numerous times as a sacrificial offering in the pentateuch.

the kidney is a random organ to target. not the easiest to find or extract, which would rule out a snatch n' grab.

he obviously felt it held special value. the only ritualistic significance of the kidney can be found in the jewish bible. for christians, jesus WAS the final sacrifice. however, for a deranged jew looking to atone for his sins, this would be rejected in favour of ritual sacrifice.

leviticus also cites the removal of the breasts and right thigh as an offering. same thing happened to mary kelly.

the ripper was a jew.

[TomTomKent]

Abby is incorrect on one thing, at least.
The killer was not a gentile, he was almost certainly a jew.
Read leviticus and you will see.

leviticus 9:20 and placed these on the breasts. Aaron burned the fat portions on the altar,
but he waved the breasts and the right thigh as a wave offering before the LORD

mary kelly's breasts were cut off and placed about her, while her right-thigh was hacked to the bone.

it's often asked why the killer targeted the kidney in eddowes' murder. quite a random organ to target and not the easiest to extract.
leviticus 3:4 holds the answer

Sorry, but I don't think Leviticus "holds the answer", unless you are looking for a way to support a theory. Somebody who thinks in terms of the bible will see the bible. Somebody who thinks in terms of butchery manuals will ask if the bodies were bled to make black pudding.


Blind speculation is not an answer.


For all we know, the killer could just like to bleed his victims, and could just find that particular squidgy organ interesting because not despite it being awkward to get to.


Even if we could show a link between the killing methods and Leviticus, that was somehow compelling, it would be a further leap of faith to suggest this meant the killer was driven by a Jewish faith. We know Leviticus is common to the Christian bible as well, and indeed, it is still a touchstone of many unpleasant interpretations of the Christian faith, used to justify several kinds of hatred and bigotry. You offer no compelling reason to suggest why taking a common text terribly literally would be exclusive to a suspect of the Jewish faith, and not a fire and brimstone Christian?

[Wickerman]

observance of the torah is more of a jewish thing, no?

We don't know if it constitutes observance, it's just the Pentateuch to a Christian.

[Harry D]

Plenty of Gentiles were familiar with the Bible, why only a Jew?

observance of the torah is more of a jewish thing, no?

[Wickerman]

leviticus 9:20 and placed these on the breasts. Aaron burned the fat portions on the altar,
but he waved the breasts and the right thigh as a wave offering before the LORD

mary kelly's breasts were cut off and placed about her, while her right-thigh was hacked to the bone.

it's often asked why the killer targeted the kidney in eddowes' murder. quite a random organ to target and not the easiest to extract.
leviticus 3:4 holds the answer

Plenty of Gentiles were familiar with the Bible, why only a Jew?

[Harry D]

hi harry
did you forget to add the winky thing? or are you serious with this?

of course I'm serious, Abby.

anderson was right about a jew, even if for the wrong reasons.

also, I thought you were a Bury man-not a jew.

not a fan of bury these days.

think he was someone with the ripper in the back of his mind.
much like jane beatmore's killer.

[DJA]

Are you familiar with Batman's form!

Quite sure I've, um ...... interpreted his, um ..... "statement".

[Sam Flynn]

A Man "walked very sharp" according to Hutchinson who had a military bearing.

That's mixing up a suspect and a witness. Or two separate suspects, if you prefer.

Nobody described a single suspect of walking briskly AND having a military appearance. Most suspects were, in fact, standing still when they were seen as far as I can remember.

[DJA]

A Man "walked very sharp" according to Hutchinson who had a military bearing.

[Sam Flynn]

At times JtR witnesses described seeing someone walk briskly with a military type look.

Did they? Lawende described a suspect as having the appearance of a sailor, but sailors aren't soldiers, and this one wasn't walking. Offhand, I can't recall anyone describing a suspect as walking briskly.

[Abby Normal]

This takes us back to Tabram where there is a possible military connection with PC Barnett's meeting with one.

At times JtR witnesses described seeing someone walk briskly with a military type look.

I like the idea of a military man because this would explain how he subdued all his victims so fast in a blitz attack. Almost like close quarter combat techniques. Silencing them quickly. A military man need not be skilled in medical matters but I am pretty sure they would know where the vitals are.

Having said that I also like the idea that JtR was a boxer. Short but squat and solid. A boxer was a suspect in the Jack the Stripper cases.

yes and ive often seen the mistake on here that people rule out tabram was a ripper victim, because her killer was probably one of the soldiers.
the two aren't mutually exclusive.

[Batman]

A former military man is frequently overlooked, but would partly explain the obsession with mutilation that occurred on the battlefields.

This takes us back to Tabram where there is a possible military connection with PC Barnett's meeting with one.

At times JtR witnesses described seeing someone walk briskly with a military type look.

I like the idea of a military man because this would explain how he subdued all his victims so fast in a blitz attack. Almost like close quarter combat techniques. Silencing them quickly. A military man need not be skilled in medical matters but I am pretty sure they would know where the vitals are.

Having said that I also like the idea that JtR was a boxer. Short but squat and solid. A boxer was a suspect in the Jack the Stripper cases.

[Abby Normal]

Abby is incorrect on one thing, at least.
The killer was not a gentile, he was almost certainly a jew.
Read leviticus and you will see.

leviticus 9:20 and placed these on the breasts. Aaron burned the fat portions on the altar,
but he waved the breasts and the right thigh as a wave offering before the LORD

mary kelly's breasts were cut off and placed about her, while her right-thigh was hacked to the bone.

it's often asked why the killer targeted the kidney in eddowes' murder. quite a random organ to target and not the easiest to extract.
leviticus 3:4 holds the answer

the victims' throats were not cut for exsanguination, although that might be an incidental factor.
the killer wanted to ensure his victims were kosher before he sacrificed them.

we're dealing with a mission-oriented, jewish serial killer. he saw the C5 as human sacrifices.
there's no evidence the killer derived any sexual enjoyment from these murders.
no signs of rape or sexual assault.
these were trespass offerings that the killer thought would right some wrong (perhaps cavorting with ladies of the night).

hi harry
did you forget to add the winky thing? or are you serious with this?

also, I thought you were a Bury man-not a jew.

[Harry D]

Abby is incorrect on one thing, at least.
The killer was not a gentile, he was almost certainly a jew.
Read leviticus and you will see.

leviticus 9:20 and placed these on the breasts. Aaron burned the fat portions on the altar,
but he waved the breasts and the right thigh as a wave offering before the LORD

mary kelly's breasts were cut off and placed about her, while her right-thigh was hacked to the bone.

it's often asked why the killer targeted the kidney in eddowes' murder. quite a random organ to target and not the easiest to extract.
leviticus 3:4 holds the answer

the victims' throats were not cut for exsanguination, although that might be an incidental factor.
the killer wanted to ensure his victims were kosher before he sacrificed them.

we're dealing with a mission-oriented, jewish serial killer. he saw the C5 as human sacrifices.
there's no evidence the killer derived any sexual enjoyment from these murders.
no signs of rape or sexual assault.
these were trespass offerings that the killer thought would right some wrong (perhaps cavorting with ladies of the night).

[Scott Nelson]

Former military and or navy/ sailor-many serial killers are and peaked cap-"like a sailor would wear".

A former military man is frequently overlooked, but would partly explain the obsession with mutilation that occurred on the battlefields .