Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

IWEC members

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • IWEC members

    I've just knocked up a quick list of people reported as members or employees of the International Workingmen's Educational Club which I thought might be of use. Please feel free to point out any errors, or add names, details, sources etc

    Members of the International Workingmen's Educational Club in Berner Street;

    William West (Wess)
    Printer by trade
    40 Berner St (in one of the houses on right? of gate)
    Inquest witness

    Morris Eagle (Siegel)
    Traveller in jewellery
    4 New Road, Commercial Road
    Inquest witness

    Louis Diemschutz (Lewis Diemschitz)
    Club Steward & traveller in jewellery
    40 Berner Street
    Inquest witness

    Mrs ? Diemschutz
    Helped her husband manage the club

    Philip Krantz
    Editor (Worker's Friend)
    40 Berner St
    Inquest witness

    Isaac Kozebrodsky (Kozebrodski, "Isaacs")
    Occupation: helped Diemschutz at the club (source?)
    Address unknown

    Joseph Lave
    A Russian, recently arrived from America and staying at the club.

    Julius Minsky
    Club member
    Daily News 2nd Oct
    Corroborated general details

    Mila
    Club servant
    Daily News 2nd Oct
    Strongly corroborated Mrs Diemschutz' evidence.

    Gilleman
    Club member
    Mentioned by Eagle in his evidence as having told him of the body.

  • #2
    Julius Minsky details 1891 census

    Julius Minsky born 1869 Sewalk Russia. Tailors Presser, living at 175 Brady Buildings MEOT. with relatives Haris (cigar maker) and Nellie Schwalb and family.
    Pat ....

    Comment


    • #3
      Thanks Paddy! Only 19 eh? Some of these working men seem like they should be still at school. But then, I guess it was an Educational club too.

      Comment


      • #4
        Living in Stable Yard no 40 Berner Street 1891 census

        In The Yard
        Abraham Silberman Fancy Purse Maker and wife with 2 children Warsaw
        (came to england within last4 years according to childrens birthplace)
        Abraham Margolava 21 Lodger Purse Maker b Warsaw
        Soloman Goldchider 21 Lodger Purse Maker b Warsaw
        Milly Korwitz 23 General Servant Kalish (Could me Mila?)
        ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
        In the Yard
        Isaac Hartstein
        Katie Hartstein with 2 children
        Rebecca Marks 40 Galicia Cousin.
        ----------------------------
        At No 40....
        Abraham Wolaginsky 30 Traveller b Russia Malat
        Milly Wolaginsky wife and 2 children
        Katti Josephson 20 Servant Malat
        Israel Eagel 22 Traveller Vilna Russia

        No 40 Katie Burnstein widow 38 Fur Skiver Warsaw Poland

        No 40 Israel Goldstein and wife Esther and 5 children.
        Malky Poylmenster? Mother in law Widow Warsaw
        Jacob Poylmenster? Brother in law plumber and gas fitter
        Jacob Soloman Single Boarder Billiard Marker 25 Warsaw
        Alex Schwartz Married Boarder Poland Blind in one eye

        Comment


        • #5
          Isaac Kozebrodski

          I Think this chap could be Isaac Kozebrodski ?

          Isaac Moses Broder born c 1855 Bryezan, Galicia ....Jewellry traveller
          living at 17 East Mount street Whitechapel in 1891 with wife Fanny (Levy) and children They married in England.1878, London City

          Mostly called himself Moses or Morris Broder In census and naturalisation records. In 1881 he was in Glasgow census...

          I read he was known as Isaac M Kozebrodsky on these boards

          Pat.....
          Last edited by Paddy; 03-15-2017, 05:44 PM.

          Comment


          • #6
            He seems a little old for our Isaac...I can't find it now, but I seem to remember reading that he was still in his teens, or early twenties at most. Could be wrong about that, but he's usually described as a polish Russian...or Russian Pole...the Evening News says he was born in Warsaw.

            Comment


            • #7
              Samuel Friedman.

              Comment


              • #8
                Originally posted by Scott Nelson View Post
                Samuel Friedman.
                Ooh, that's a name I don't recall seeing before....any idea where it comes from?

                Comment


                • #9
                  Isaac Kozebroske Times March 9th 1889

                  Yes you are correct he was too old.

                  I have found this from an article in the times above date...

                  Isaac Kozebrodske aged 19, a machinest of 40 Old Ford Road Bethnal Green

                  Samuel Friedman Cap blocker of 85 Weaver Street Spitalfields.

                  Pat......

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    Ah, of course! Thanks for that, I'd forgotten about the dust up at the club. That's where I must have read about his age. And that's where Friedman is mentioned too, thanks Scott, as one of the ringleaders of the assault. Despite reportedly shouting "I will do for some one to night, and done care if I get 12 months for it" he apparently did care as he didn't turn up to the hearing! I wonder if he was ever located?

                    Times Fri 26th April 1889
                    Lewis Diemschitz [Louis Diemschutz], 27, and Isaac Kozebrodski, 19, surrendered to their bail to answer an indictment for making a riot and rout, and for assaulting various persons. A third man, Samuel Friedman, who was indicted with the defendants did not surrender to his bail when called. Mr. Gill and Mr. Partridge prosecuted on behalf of the Commissioner of Police; and Mr. W. M. Thompson represented the defendants. The alleged disturbance occurred on March 16, on which day there had been a procession of the Jewish unemployed in the East-end. After the dispersal of the procession, many of those composing it returned to the International Workmen's Club, Berner-street, Commercial-road, E., of which they were members, and from which the procession had started. A crowd of some 200 or 300 persons, who had been following the procession, assembled outside the club, and began to annoy those inside by throwing stones, hooting, and knocking at the door. The defendant Diemschitz, steward of the club, sent for the police, but when they arrived those inside the club assumed the defensive, and, rushing out in a body, attacked the crowd with broom sticks, walking sticks, and umbrellas. It was stated that the defendants bore a prominent part in the fight, and that Diemschitz struck and kicked plain clothes constable Frost, who interfered. Frost attempted to arrest Diemschitz, but was dragged into the club, where he was beaten and kicked. On the conclusion of the case for the prosecution, Mr. Gill abandoned the count for riot. A number of witnesses were called for the defence, who gave evidence to the effect that the police had made an entirely unprovoked attack on the defendants and their companions. The jury found the defendants Guilty of assaulting two constables, but Acquitted them on the other counts. The Chairman said they had greatly aggravated their offence by the defence they had set up. Diemschitz was sentenced to three months' imprisonment with hard labour, and on his liberation to be bound over and to find sureties to keep the peace for 12 months. Kosebrodski was sentenced to pay a fine of 4, or to be imprisoned for one month.

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      The Star 1st Oct carries the following;

                      "M. Rombrow is the editor of The Worker's Friend, whose printing office is in the yard. It was just outside the door of this office that the body was found. M. Rombrow says that he was in this office all the time, and had there been the noise of any struggle, however slight, he should have heard it. He heard nothing, however, until the steward's coming into the yard."

                      Did the paper have two editors, or is M. Rombrow an alternative name for Phillip Krantz?

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Joshua Rogan View Post
                        Did the paper have two editors, or is M. Rombrow an alternative name for Phillip Krantz?
                        Rombrov was Krantz, JR.

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Thanks Jon. I was about to ask you how you know, but it says so on Krantz's witness page;

                          "Born Jacob Rombro in 1859 in Podolia, Russia. After fleeing the pogroms of 1881 he spent some time in Paris before coming to London and changing his name. Editor of Arbeter Fraint ('Worker's Friend')"

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Joshua Rogan View Post
                            Thanks Jon. I was about to ask you how you know, but it says so on Krantz's witness page;

                            "Born Jacob Rombro in 1859 in Podolia, Russia. After fleeing the pogroms of 1881 he spent some time in Paris before coming to London and changing his name. Editor of Arbeter Fraint ('Worker's Friend')"
                            The Casebook Wiki is also a good place to look.

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              According to Sugden's "Complete History", Leon Goldstein - the man with the black bag seen by Fanny Mortimer - was a member of the club. Can anyone confirm this, or know where he got this from?

                              Comment

                              Working...
                              X