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  • After all of this time I think I’m done here. Debating with you is like wrestling an eel. Some much twisting, slipperiness and deceit makes reasoned discussion impossible. Your simply not an honest poster Fishy. The evidence for that is simply overwhelming. Post after post of wriggling, obfuscation and avoidance. You are not at all interested in the case for its own sake. All that you want to do is to search for and cling onto absolutely anything that you feel might bolster the Knight/Sickert theory. Anything that contradicts this must be wrong. Whatever drivel you might use in response to this post is irrelevant. You have consistently derided the inaccuracy of TOD estimates despite the testimony of experts being overwhelming. Not 60%. Not 90%. But 100% of experts. And yet you Fishy believe that you know better and you base this startling insight on the fact that doctors got 3 TOD’s correct! Everyone can see that this opinion is a joke. It’s just not a funny one though. It’s sad.

    Hopefully my final point. You stated, a considerable time ago, that you could show that Simon Wood’s research ( showing the massive holes in Knight’s theory) was full of errors. That you could rebut Simon’s rebuttal. When posters make claims like this they will be pressed for their evidence. Most posters would then provide their evidence. I’ve asked you to provide your evidence around 20 times!!! And every single time you’ve ignored my request or simply changed the subject. Simon himself has even offered to read your points in a pm. You ignored his offer too. This is not honest posting Fishy. This is not the action of someone with integrity looking to discus and debate. You must see this surely?

    I would advise all other posters to avoid wasting their time by engaging in discussion with you. It’s up to the individual of course but they will simply be wasting their time if they try to treat you as someone that is genuinely interested in the case and genuinely willing to discuss all points honestly and openly. You are transparently not.
    Regards

    Herlock






    "Crime is common. Logic is rare. Therefore it is upon the logic rather than upon the crime that you should dwell.”

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    • What about wolf vanderlindens position, is his a reasonable one ??????????

      speaking of ignoring ??? , whos doing the wriggling and twisting when it come to this ?


      After all of this time I think Iím done here. Debating with you is like wrestling an eel. Some much twisting, slipperiness and deceit makes reasoned discussion impossible. Your simply not an honest poster Fishy. The evidence for that is simply overwhelming. Post after post of wriggling, obfuscation and avoidance. You are not at all interested in the case for its own sake. All that you want to do is to search for and cling onto absolutely anything that you feel might bolster the Knight/Sickert theory. Anything that contradicts this must be wrong. Whatever drivel you might use in response to this post is irrelevant. You have consistently derided the inaccuracy of TOD estimates despite the testimony of experts being overwhelming. Not 60%. Not 90%. But 100% of experts. And yet you Fishy believe that you know better and you base this startling insight on the fact that doctors got 3 TODís correct! Everyone can see that this opinion is a joke. Itís just not a funny one though. Itís sad.
      Another long winded post about nothing, again these points have been discussed already. So best its time you do move on and let people have their say oh how they wish to determine what the evidence and witnesses and the inquest testimonies say about the jtr murders.

      So farewell to you

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      • ill just post this again shall
        or maybe Joseph Sickert was indeed Walter Sickert son , which if true poses a interesting question , Walter died in 1942 ,Joseph maintained he was told the story by he father Walter when he was 13/14 . Joseph being born in 1925 would make it 1938/9.


        Now again, if this is true it means Joseph Sickert, a man nobody ever heard of who lived a life of a virtual recluse, who by Walters account was told an incredible story about who the whitechapel murderer was , then decided to wait 35 years to tell knight so they could both make a few bucks ?

        Add to this Jean Overton Fullers mother Violet Fullers life long companion Florence Pash, who claimed Walter Sickert who she associated and spent time with and was a painter in her own right , told her the same story he told Joseph.

        So another question beckons , why on earth would Jean Overton Fuller go to all the trouble of researching and publishing her 1991 book based on a story which by that time was being debunked as a made up fantasy by every ripperoligist on the planet ?. One wonders her motives as to why she would expose herself to the same ridicule that both joseph and knight came under....... just for a few bucks

        Finally , lets take Joseph out of the picture altogether and go with the theory he lied and made the whole thing up. How then do we explain Florence Pashs exact same lie she told to violet fuller in 1948? according to Jean Overton Fuller.

        So now, do we have two people who most likely never met, never knew the other existed ,who were told the same lie from the same source in Walter Sickert 50 years apart?

        Also ignored ... 3 times


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        • Originally posted by FISHY1118 View Post
          ill just post this again shall
          or maybe Joseph Sickert was indeed Walter Sickert son , which if true poses a interesting question , Walter died in 1942 ,Joseph maintained he was told the story by he father Walter when he was 13/14 . Joseph being born in 1925 would make it 1938/9.


          Now again, if this is true it means Joseph Sickert, a man nobody ever heard of who lived a life of a virtual recluse, who by Walters account was told an incredible story about who the whitechapel murderer was , then decided to wait 35 years to tell knight so they could both make a few bucks ?

          Add to this Jean Overton Fullers mother Violet Fullers life long companion Florence Pash, who claimed Walter Sickert who she associated and spent time with and was a painter in her own right , told her the same story he told Joseph.

          So another question beckons , why on earth would Jean Overton Fuller go to all the trouble of researching and publishing her 1991 book based on a story which by that time was being debunked as a made up fantasy by every ripperoligist on the planet ?. One wonders her motives as to why she would expose herself to the same ridicule that both joseph and knight came under....... just for a few bucks

          Finally , lets take Joseph out of the picture altogether and go with the theory he lied and made the whole thing up. How then do we explain Florence Pashs exact same lie she told to violet fuller in 1948? according to Jean Overton Fuller.

          So now, do we have two people who most likely never met, never knew the other existed ,who were told the same lie from the same source in Walter Sickert 50 years apart?

          Also ignored ... 3 times

          3 ignores compared to your 20+. Ok I guess thatís close in your world.

          Its impossible for anyone to know the answer to this one Fishy. The fact that Walter might have told the same made up story to more than one person doesnít make it true. So what we have to do is investigate the story itself. We do this by checking the alleged facts by research and seeing if the story holds water. This is what Simon did in 1976. And what did he find. That Annie Crook wasnít a Catholic. That the place that she lived didnít exist. That she and Elizabeth Cook were not one and the same. That Sickertís studio didnít exist. And that the hospital she was allegedly taken didnít exist. Those facts in themselves are enough for any reasonable person to dismiss the fantasy. Then we can add the ludicrousness of the Queens Physician being involved (a man that was nearly 72) Then we can add the ludicrousness of men carrying mutilated corpses around to dump them in insanely risky spots without being seen. Then we can add the extreme unlikeliness of them leaving no blood evidence on the journey from coach to dumping place. Then we can add that no one saw or heard a coach and horses anywhere near the murder sites. How much more do we need. Theories have been dismissed on a quarter of this and if it wasnít so late at night I could come up with more objections.


          Ive answered your question Fishy (one that youíd only asked 3 times) so come on. Your turn. Show us your evidence for rebuttal of Simonís research.

          Will you?

          Of course not.

          Why?

          Because you canít?

          So what tactic this time Fishy? Ignore the question, change the subject? You choose.
          Regards

          Herlock






          "Crime is common. Logic is rare. Therefore it is upon the logic rather than upon the crime that you should dwell.”

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          • I thought you were going , welcome back .

            What about wolf vanderlindens position, is his a reasonable one ?????????? you forgot this one

            So now your saying Walter made the whole thing up, is that it ? Cause it sure sounds like thats what your saying . which means that the story didn't originate with Joseph Sickert did it ?

            And that Florence Pash confims the same story suggest to me at the very least that Joseph didnt make the whole thing up . did he ?
            Last edited by FISHY1118; 07-28-2019, 05:09 AM.

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            • Originally posted by FISHY1118 View Post
              I thought you were going , welcome back .

              What about wolf vanderlindens position, is his a reasonable one ?????????? you forgot this one

              So now your saying Walter made the whole thing up, is that it ? Cause it sure sounds like thats what your saying . which means that the story didn't originate with Joseph Sickert did it ?

              And that Florence Pash confims the same story suggest to me at the very least that Joseph didnt make the whole thing up . did he ?
              Ah, itís the change the subject tactic...ok.

              Wolf Vanderlinden dissertation is very good. And of course, as Iíve stated numerous times, we cannot know for certain what went on. Wolfís raises points that have to be considered and discussed. We do not have to automatically agree with everything that he writes unlike you who, naturally, have fixated on it. We can disagree on issues within it though like the issue of someone leaving the scene covered in blood. What if the killer wore an overcoat which he removed to do the mutilations and then put back on before he left covering any blood. What if he wore gloves? It absurd to assume that the killer walked through the streets dripping in blood.

              On Sickert. Of course we cannot be certain who made the story up. Maybe Walter said something and Joseph elaborated over the years. We know that Walter had an interested in the case. We know that itís been suggested that Walter told a few tall tales in his later years. The origin of the story, whilst perhaps interesting in itself, is secondary to the validity of the story itself. Thatí is what anyone interested in the case is interested in. Whether it was true or not. And the evidence that has been produced show the story to have been a fabrication.

              Again, I have responded by directly responding to your question as posters should. So......your turn.

              For the 21st time Fishy. Please provide you evidence which proves that Simonís research was inaccurate on the five points concerning the Sickert/Knight story.
              Last edited by Herlock Sholmes; 07-28-2019, 09:56 AM.
              Regards

              Herlock






              "Crime is common. Logic is rare. Therefore it is upon the logic rather than upon the crime that you should dwell.”

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              • Of course Wolf Vandelindens dissertation was good that why i posted it , but before i did , if you go back and read my Long v Codosch posts, those were some of the points i was trying to make all along, which you basically said was rubbish. So it was good enough for W.V why not for me ? Hardly a fixation, more like trying to bring it into the discussion as its well worth looking at the Chapman murder in other ways it might have been committed.







                Yes we can be sure , both Florence Pash and Joseph Sickert confirm thats where the story originated from , so there 1 piece of simons evidence that was incorrect /inaccurate .

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                • Originally posted by FISHY1118 View Post
                  Of course Wolf Vandelindens dissertation was good that why i posted it , but before i did , if you go back and read my Long v Codosch posts, those were some of the points i was trying to make all along, which you basically said was rubbish. So it was good enough for W.V why not for me ? Hardly a fixation, more like trying to bring it into the discussion as its well worth looking at the Chapman murder in other ways it might have been committed.







                  Yes we can be sure , both Florence Pash and Joseph Sickert confirm thats where the story originated from , so there 1 piece of simons evidence that was incorrect /inaccurate .
                  Avoidance.

                  Of course you know that Iíve repeatedly asked about the 5 very specific points about Simonís research. The 5 very specific points that you keep ignoring.
                  Regards

                  Herlock






                  "Crime is common. Logic is rare. Therefore it is upon the logic rather than upon the crime that you should dwell.”

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                  • like you just ignored my first paragraph of that post .



                    1.Yes we can be sure , both Florence Pash and Joseph Sickert confirm thats where the story originated from , so there 1 piece of simons evidence that was incorrect /inaccurate

                    2.The misconception that gull couldn't have committed the murders due to his stroke and age , again inaccurate and incorrect as shown by medical journals at the time .

                    moving along

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                    • [QUOTE=FISHY1118;n717493]


                      . like you just ignored my first paragraph of that post .
                      Ive answered it. What do you want me to say about it? Iím quite happy to discus the dissertation in detail. I never avoid questions. I might say that I donít know but I wonít avoid them.

                      [B]1.Yes we can be sure , both Florence Pash and Joseph Sickert confirm thats where the story originated from , so there 1 piece of simons evidence that was incorrect /inaccurate
                      How can you be certain of anything? Rumour, word of mouth, Chinese whispers, Sickertís exaggeration, someone misinterpreting what someone else said. Your on a bed of sand.

                      [B]2.The misconception that gull couldn't have committed the murders due to his stroke and age , again inaccurate and incorrect as shown by medical journals at the time .
                      More attempted misdirection. I never said that Gullís stroke made it impossible for him to have been involved only that it increased the unlikeliness. Because it was said that Gull largely recovered youíre trying to make it appear that he became a picture of health when this wasnít the case.

                      Firstly, we have the fact that Gullís stroke forced him to give up a not very physically taxing profession. And the fact that, even though he largely recovered, never resumed his practice.

                      and Secondly we have Gull himself saying that he was never the same man again after his stroke.

                      With the fact that he was nearly seventy two (which was right at the end of life period for that time) we have, by anyoneís reasonable reckoning, a very, very unlikely ripper.

                      . moving along


                      As you always try and do. None of the above were the points that I mentioned Fishy. Obvious avoidance.



                      Answer the 5 very specific points about Simonís research. Be honest for once. Everyone can see this Fishy. Back up your statements or admit that they were untrue.




                      Regards

                      Herlock






                      "Crime is common. Logic is rare. Therefore it is upon the logic rather than upon the crime that you should dwell.”

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                      • Ive answered it. What do you want me to say about it? Iím quite happy to discus the dissertation in detail. I never avoid questions. I might say that I donít know but I wonít avoid them.
                        How about yes fishy its a very good piece, and certainty leads one to examine that more than one possibility to how the murder were committed . And that long and codoschs testimony doesn't necessarily mean/prove that it was committed between 5.15am to 5.30pm .. thats just for a start .

                        How can you be certain of anything? Rumour, word of mouth, Chinese whispers, Sickertís exaggeration, someone misinterpreting what someone else said. Your on a bed of sand.

                        How about we stick to that fact about where Joseph Sickert claimed he was told the story in the first place by Walter Sickert , by which Florence Pash also tells the same story. Remember it was all about Joseph making the whole story up on his own , which is clearly untrue . So ill stand by what ive said about inaccurate and incorrect, according to Simon and others. Back to a slab of concrete if you dont mind .


                        More attempted misdirection. I never said that Gullís stroke made it impossible for him to have been involved only that it increased the unlikeliness. Because it was said that Gull largely recovered youíre trying to make it appear that he became a picture of health when this wasnít the case.

                        Firstly, we have the fact that Gullís stroke forced him to give up a not very physically taxing profession. And the fact that, even though he largely recovered, never resumed his practice.

                        and Secondly we have Gull himself saying that he was never the same man again after his stroke.

                        With the fact that he was nearly seventy two (which was right at the end of life period for that time) we have, by anyoneís reasonable reckoning, a very, very unlikely ripper.
                        I didt say that he was a picture of health , your word not mine , all im saying is
                        despite all this, according to the medical men of the day who reported that sir William Gull made a full recovery , gull saying that he was never the same man after his stoke could be interpreted in any number of ways .It doesn't necessarily mean in a physical capacity now does it . So again open to interpretation. Gull could have just as easily been a candidate for jack the ripper based on what we know about him . His age and his MINOR STROKE, shouldn't be used to rule him out
                        .



                        Answer the 5 very specific points about Simonís research. Be honest for once. Everyone can see this Fishy. Back up your statements or admit that they were untrue.
                        You mean 3 . Joseph Sickert and William Gull . Based on the conclusion that Sickert didn't make the whole thing up, and Gull was certainly capable of the murders . These are two common misconceptions authors make when discussing jtr.

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                        • [QUOTE=FISHY1118;n717540]

                          .
                          How about yes fishy its a very good piece, and certainty leads one to examine that more than one possibility to how the murder were committed . And that long and codoschs testimony doesn't necessarily mean/prove that it was committed between 5.15am to 5.30pm .. thats just for a start .
                          I said that it was very good in post #261! Iíve also repeatedly stated that Iíve never said that Phillips was definitely wrong Fishy. Only that he might have been and that, in my opinion, the three witnesses add weight to that suggestion. Why do you persist in misrepresenting my post and opinions? If thereís one issue that I regularly comment on on these boards itís over-confidence so Iím always cautious about considering how likely something is to have been true.

                          How about we stick to that fact about where Joseph Sickert claimed he was told the story in the first place by Walter Sickert , by which Florence Pash also tells the same story. Remember it was all about Joseph making the whole story up on his own , which is clearly untrue . So ill stand by what ive said about inaccurate and incorrect, according to Simon and others. Back to a slab of concrete if you dont mind .
                          Firstly, on Simon being inaccurate. You know that these are not the issues that Iíve been trying to get you to respond to Fishy and itís simply dishonest to keep responding to points other than the ones in question.

                          Secondly, we can of course discuss the origin of the Sickert story but we have no way of knowing for certain. Itís difficult for me to include Pash in my conversations because itís been such a long time since I read Overton-Fuller. Iíll accept whatever you say that she said about Pash. The origin of the story is of course of interest but my absolute main interest is whether the story was true or not and the evidence is overwhelming that the story isnít true. This doesnít of course mean that there wasnít a kernel of truth there somewhere in connecting Sickert and Alice Margaret. I donít know. Stories can change down the years often not deliberately but simply from person to person. Sickert was known to have an interest in murder in general and Jack the Ripper specifically. He also appears to have been a strange man; more so in his later years. So he may have simply concocted this story by himself. The point that I return to though is that the story itself is not believable.


                          I didt say that he was a picture of health , your word not mine , all im saying is
                          despite all this, according to the medical men of the day who reported that sir William Gull made a full recovery , gull saying that he was never the same man after his stoke could be interpreted in any number of ways .It doesn't necessarily mean in a physical capacity now does it . So again open to interpretation. Gull could have just as easily been a candidate for jack the ripper based on what we know about him . His age and his MINOR STROKE, shouldn't be used to rule him out
                          .
                          Where did I suggest that Gull was a picture of health Fishy? Why have you said your word not mine? Point me to where Iíve said this. All that Iíve done is made an entirely reasonable suggestion. Iíll repeat, Gull had a stroke that was serious enough to mean that he could even continue a job that was hardly physically taxing and that even though he largely recovered over a relatively short period he never resumed his career. He also said of his health that he didnít feel the same man. Thereís no ther reasonable interpretation of this Fishy. Gull was also approaching 72 which was, by the measures of period, near the end of his life expectancy or even past it.

                          Yet again though Fishy, Iíve never said that this made it impossible for Gull to have done what you are suggesting. I merely state that by anyoneís reasoning this is incredibly unlikely. I might also add, think of the resources that the government/Freemasons would have had at their disposal? Would the natural, logical choice have been a 72 year old man?





                          You mean 3 . Joseph Sickert and William Gull . Based on the conclusion that Sickert didn't make the whole thing up, and Gull was certainly capable of the murders . These are two common misconceptions authors make when discussing jtr.

                          This is the most annoying part of discussing these issues with you Fishy. Blatant dishonesty. Have you no sense of shame? You know the points that I keep asking that you to back up yet you persist in answering other questions. I have answered every singly one of your questions Fishy. Every single one. You may not agree with or like my answers but Iíve answered them to the best of my knowledge and ability. You keep avoiding though. Here goes again......

                          Please respond to the following.......nothing else........just the following.......ok......understand?

                          SIMON WOOD SHOWED, BY PROPER RESEARCH OF PRIMARY SOURCES, THE FOLLOWING...

                          1. THAT ANNIE CROOK WAS NOT A CATHOLIC.

                          2. THAT SHE COULDNT HAVE BEEN LIVING WHERE SICKERT AND KNIGHT CLAIMED.

                          3.THAT SHE AND ELIZABETH COOK WERE NOT ONE AND THE SAME AS KNIGHT CLAIMED.

                          4. THAT SICKERTS CLEVELAND STREET STUDIO DID NOT EXIST.

                          5. THAT THE HOSPITAL THAT CROOK WAS ALLEGED TO HAVE BEEN TAKEN TO DID NOT EXIST AT THE ADDRESS CLAIMED.

                          6. THAT THE NEWSPAPER STORY ALLEGING THAT NETLEY RAN OVER ALICE MARGARET WAS ENTIRELY UNCONNECTED.


                          You claimed, on these boards, to be able to prove that Simonís research was wrong and that the above 6 discoveries were wrong. You have failed to provide that proof.


                          Now, just to be clear Fishy as I donít wish you to get confused...

                          Im not asking about Gullís health.
                          Im not asking about Chapmanís TOD.
                          Im not asking about Eddowes mutilations.
                          Im not asking about Wolf Vanderlinden dissertation.
                          Im not asking about Englandís 1966 World Cup winning team.
                          Im not asking about the history of juggling.


                          Im asking about the very specific 6 issues listed in capitols above. The 6 very specific issues where you claimed to be able to prove Simon wrong.

                          So, Iíve answered your questions Fishy.

                          Will you finally back up your claim and reply honestly......

                          Drum roll........
                          Last edited by Herlock Sholmes; 07-29-2019, 11:01 AM.
                          Regards

                          Herlock






                          "Crime is common. Logic is rare. Therefore it is upon the logic rather than upon the crime that you should dwell.”

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                          • Im not asking about Gullís health.
                            Im not asking about Chapmanís TOD.
                            Im not asking about Eddowes mutilations.
                            Im not asking about Wolf Vanderlinden dissertation.
                            Im not asking about Englandís 1966 World Cup winning team.
                            Im not asking about the history of juggling.
                            im telling you about chapmans t.od.
                            im telling you about gulls health.
                            im telling you about eddowes mutilations.
                            im telling you about wolf vanderlinden.
                            go the 3 west ham players who played in it.
                            stick the juggling
                            .

                            Annie Crook was a Catholic according to her niece Ellen Lackner

                            Sickert had many studio in and around Cleveland st

                            6. THAT THE NEWSPAPER STORY ALLEGING THAT NETLEY RAN OVER ALICE MARGARET WAS ENTIRELY UNCONNECTED.

                            The newspaper report which you speak of is irrelevant/ Its also wrong in this case . We have Florence Pashs admission that she told Overton Fuller she was the one who was standing on the corner with a young Alice Crook, when a man matching Netleys description [who she later described to Walter Sickert after the event] deliberately tried to run them both down.

                            SO theres another you got wrong by believing a newspaper report than a actual person .

                            Last edited by FISHY1118; 07-29-2019, 11:47 AM.

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                            • Originally posted by FISHY1118 View Post
                              im telling you about chapmans t.od.
                              I’m well aware of the facts surrounding Chapman’s death. I’ve also stressed that I’ve never said that Phillips couldn’t have been correct only that he could have been wrong. You however have taken an overconfident view that just because 3 other TOD’s were correct then that shows that TOD’s couldn’t have been inaccurate. You have continually and repeatedly dismissed the proven fact that TOD estimations were little more than guesswork. There is no need for further discussion on this unless it’s to discuss the relative merits of the testimonies of Richardson, Cadosch And Long.
                              im telling you about gulls health.
                              I’m well aware of the issues surrounding Gull’s health. To repeat, I’ve never said that Gull’s health or age categorically discounted him, only that it makes him unlikely. This appears to be a statement that only you can’t acknowledge and it’s fairly obvious why.

                              im telling you about eddowes mutilations.
                              Unsurprisingly you have fixed on the couple of doctors that have suggested that a killer would not have had time to have performed those mutilations and completely disregarded the overwhelming majority (including those at the time) who have said that the killer would have had time. Again, I wonder why?
                              im telling you about wolf vanderlinden.
                              As I’ve told you. I’ve read this well written dissertation twice. You have latched on to it and appear to consider it gospel. I do not.
                              go the 3 west ham players who played in it.
                              stick the juggling
                              .
                              . Annie Crook was a Catholic according to her niece Ellen Lackner
                              Word of mouth, especially from someone that might have had a motive for propagating a story, does not carry anything like the same weight as evidence in writing. Evidence in writing which gave information coming from Annie herself.

                              .
                              Sickert had many studio in and around Cleveland st


                              Firstly, this is a random statement and evidence of absolutely nothing. Can you name any of his alleged Cleveland Street studios and when he was there? We know that he had a studio at nearby Fitzroy Square but years after these events. And of course, most importantly of course, Joseph gave a very particular address. He allegedly knew where this studio was. This studio did not exist.

                              6. THAT THE NEWSPAPER STORY ALLEGING THAT NETLEY RAN OVER ALICE MARGARET WAS ENTIRELY UNCONNECTED.

                              The newspaper report which you speak of is irrelevant/ Its also wrong in this case . We have Florence Pashs admission that she told Overton Fuller she was the one who was standing on the corner with a young Alice Crook, when a man matching Netleys description [who she later described to Walter Sickert after the event] deliberately tried to run them both down.

                              SO theres another you got wrong by believing a newspaper report than a actual person .


                              Can you be serious with this response? It’s not me that is guilty of mistakenly believing a newspaper story it was Stephen Knight who said this. He was the one who was wrong.....again.

                              Word of mouth from Pash is hardly concrete evidence is it?

                              I suppose that I should be grateful. At least you’ve mentioned 3 of the 6 points for the first time. But unfortunately you said that you could pr
                              ove that Simon’s research was wrong. You obviously haven’t even come close. None of your responses even approach proof. You will need to do better than this. Plus you’ve neglected the other 3 points I see.
                              Regards

                              Herlock






                              "Crime is common. Logic is rare. Therefore it is upon the logic rather than upon the crime that you should dwell.”

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                              • I think ill keep this short, im getting tired of your long winded posts about the same old things ive explained over and over again . If you dont want to admit to yourself that these people existed and theses places existed, and were possibly[cant be ruled out ] part of the jack the ripper murders, then go back to another theory and leave this one to those that want to discuss and examine the evidence with out your silly denials that the above was all made up . Utter nonsense on your behalf yet again.


                                Can you be serious with this response? Itís not me that is guilty of mistakenly believing a newspaper story it was Stephen Knight who said this. He was the one who was wrong.....again.
                                Are you so totally visually challenged that you cant see for yourself what the implications of Florence Pash saying that it was her and Alice who she claimed Netley tried to run them down , how could knight be wrong if Pash claimed her part in the incident years before his book ? . Wait dont bother , im tired of the same boring word of mouth argument you keep tossing up . Simon would have been better trying to prove Sickert right than wrong, he would have had more success bases on what we know to be true .
                                And before you go and say ''oh simon has proved it wasn't this and simon says it wasn't that, wheres his proof about Florence Pash and her story BEING ALL MADE UP which just so happen to match the one Joseph told Knight in 1973 . Only hers was 35 years earlier
                                So on this one fact alone man up, and please dont ever say Joseph Sickert made the whole thing up so he and knight could make a few bucks .LUDICROUS THINKING.

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