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Old 12-01-2018, 02:36 PM
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Aged 28-43
Below average height
Stout, powerfully built
Light brown/ ginger hair
mustache
Local, lived in immediate area
Walked when committing murders, possible use of cart
English
Gentile
Steady work, probably involving manuel labor
Lower class but not poor
Had own place, though modest
Frequented pubs and drinker
Single or dominated wife
Knew prostitues and socialized with
Had problems having sex
Former military and or navy/ sailor
Very familiar with knife
Accustomed to carrying knife before murder spree
Appears very cocky to people
Thinks he is smarter than anyone else
Self assured
Cunning
Experience cutting up animals
Probable anatomical knowledge, possible medical/surgical experience
NO or very light criminal record
No overt mental illness
Read newspapers
Main motivation-Fascinated with the female body and what his knife could do to it
Possible masterbation and or cannibalism with trophies/ parts
Secondary motivation-Enjoyed shocking / toying with the public
Looked down on police
No interest in torture, all interest post mortem
Curiosity big factor in motivation
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I'd like to follow all those bullet point statements with a question: Why?
How did you arrive at those profile points?
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Yeah, but we're gonna need a name.
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Yeah, but we're gonna need a name.
Well we could start by seeing who it dosnt eliminate:


Hutch
Barnett
Flemming
Bury
Lech
Kelly

It pretty much eliminates all the other major suspects like:
Chapman
Druitt
Tumblety
Koz
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I agree with “How did you reach those conclusions”
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Well we could start by seeing who it dosnt eliminate:


Hutch
Barnett
Flemming
Bury
Lech
Kelly

It pretty much eliminates all the other major suspects like:
Chapman
Druitt
Tumblety
Koz
Abby,

How does ‘own place’ work for Hutch? Or ‘steady work’ for that matter?

And if Hutch was Toppy, the age is out and he would have to have fitted a lot of work experience into his short life: groom, soldier/sailor, slaughterman.

We know a fair bit about Lech and it seems extremely unlikely that he was in the military or the merchant navy. So surely that’s him out too?

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Old 12-02-2018, 03:30 AM
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Interesting profile Abby. Of course profiles are just a guide and the unsub is unlikely to fit the whole profile.
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Abby,

How does ‘own place’ work for Hutch? Or ‘steady work’ for that matter?

And if Hutch was Toppy, the age is out and he would have to have fitted a lot of work experience into his short life: groom, soldier/sailor, slaughterman.

We know a fair bit about Lech and it seems extremely unlikely that he was in the military or the merchant navy. So surely that’s him out too?

Gary
Hi gary
I should have posted that i dont think its rock solid everthing i listed he must have, but i think most of them probably he would. And some of them i feel stronger about and would be more of a dealbreaker, and of course some suspects are missing more of these than others.

But you got me thinking now alomg these lines. If i did hold strictly to this list and rule suspects out if even if they are missing even just one, is anyone left?
Hutch would be out, because he dosnt have his own place, as would barnett and flemimg. That would leave bury, lech amd kelly?

Anything on my list rule them out also?

Did i just rule out my favored suspect hutch? Lol
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Interesting profile Abby. Of course profiles are just a guide and the unsub is unlikely to fit the whole profile.
Of course absolutely.

Interestingly i think bury is one of the few suspects who still fits most if not all of these (that we know of course). Except former military navy/ sailor?

Do we know?
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I agree with “How did you reach those conclusions”
Hi gut, well that will be quite a task to do it individually but when i have the time ill try it.
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