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That's all a bit vague, Richard.

This is such an important aspect of Thompson's biography in respect of his candidacy as a JTR suspect. You must have quotes you can share with us that unequivocally place Thompson in the PR refuge.

(Strange that you didn't feel the need to include them in your book.)
I'm glad that you see that whether Thompson stayed at Providence Row to be an important aspect of Thompson's candidacy. A colleague contacted the sisters who ran Providence Row, asking for attendance records. Unfortunately they answered that records were not kept. This leaves me with the fact that Thompson wrote of applying to stay there. At the very least, I have Thompson standing at the end of Dorsert Street. If not in November 1888, the most plausible time, then earlier, and if that is the case, it simply extends his history of connection to Spitalsfields and a refuge that Mary Kelly is also supposed to have used. I devote a chapter in my book on Providence Row and the reasons why we can conclude that Thompson used it. There is plenty to quote from that. You obviously have an interest in my suspect or my claims. I am unsure if you have or have read my book. I am happy to send you a complimentary copy of it. You are welcome to read it and write a review on it. I am confident your opinion would prove interesting reading. You will surely find holes in the theory that others might have missed, since you know a great deal about the Ripper murders and have knowledge on Thompson as well.
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I'm glad that you see that whether Thompson stayed at Providence Row to be an important aspect of Thompson's candidacy. A colleague contacted the sisters who ran Providence Row, asking for attendance records. Unfortunately they answered that records were not kept. This leaves me with the fact that Thompson wrote of applying to stay there. At the very least, I have Thompson standing at the end of Dorsert Street. If not in November 1888, the most plausible time, then earlier, and if that is the case, it simply extends his history of connection to Spitalsfields and a refuge that Mary Kelly is also supposed to have used. I devote a chapter in my book on Providence Row and the reasons why we can conclude that Thompson used it. There is plenty to quote from that. You obviously have an interest in my suspect or my claims. I am unsure if you have or have read my book. I am happy to send you a complimentary copy of it. You are welcome to read it and write a review on it. I am confident your opinion would prove interesting reading. You will surely find holes in the theory that others might have missed, since you know a great deal about the Ripper murders and have knowledge on Thompson as well.
Let me ask the question again - on what evidence do you base your claim that Thompson was living in Spitafields in 1888? From what you say above it appears that you aren't sure that he actually did.

No such uncertainty appears in your book.

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Let me ask the question again - on what evidence do you base your claim that Thompson was living in Spitafields in 1888? From what you say above it appears that you aren't sure that he actually did.

No such uncertainty appears in your book.
So you have read my book. You should tell me if you think he was the Ripper and if not, who you think it was (It will be sad if you say you have no opinion, or that it was a nobody.)

I do not say that I am unsure that Thompson stayed in Providence Row, in my book, because, from what I wrote of what I know of the Row & Thompson, I am sure he did.

Here, on Casebook I am simply adding that even if he did not stay, he was in Spitalsfield and that alone satisfies the condition for his candidacy.
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So you have read my book. You should tell me if you think he was the Ripper and if not, who you think it was (It will be sad if you say you have no opinion, or that it was a nobody.)

I do not say that I am unsure that Thompson stayed in Providence Row, in my book, because, from what I wrote of what I know of the Row & Thompson, I am sure he did.

Here, on Casebook I am simply adding that even if he did not stay, he was in Spitalsfield and that alone satisfies the condition for his candidacy.
I would hate to appear to be a pedant, but it's Spitalfields, not Spitalsfield.

Why on earth would it be sad if I didn't have an alternative suspect to FT?
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I would hate to appear to be a pedant, but it's Spitalfields, not Spitalsfield.

Why on earth would it be sad if I didn't have an alternative suspect to FT?
Thanks for correcting my spelling. Being a pedant is hardly a bad thing.

Why would it be sad? Well, it would mean that for all your years of learning about this case you must have some formless void in your mind when you think of who to suspect for the murders. It would be, I suppose, like somebody who has learned everything that there is to know about the Pacific ocean, but who has never touched water. In short, you have learned nothing of any value, having come no closer to solving this interesting mystery. Or, to use another metaphor. It would be as if you were master-chef who doesn't have a favorite meal. I can hardly imagine that such a thing is possible. But perhaps you can do the impossible.
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Let's remind ourselves of the title of this thread - Only one suspect can be shown to have carried a knife.
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Let's remind ourselves of the title of this thread - Only one suspect can be shown to have carried a knife.
Francis Thompson. Dispensing with all the suspects who had knives that were either useless, on the other side of the world, or in their possession years later or years before.
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I thought Iíve seen numerous times by posters on here that FT was staying right around the corner from Mary Kelly during the fall of 88, or am I getting my suspects mixed up?
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I thought Iíve seen numerous times by posters on here that FT was staying right around the corner from Mary Kelly during the fall of 88, or am I getting my suspects mixed up?
There's little evidence that he was.
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Francis Thompson. Dispensing with all the suspects who had knives that were either useless, on the other side of the world, or in their possession years later or years before.
And the evidence that Thompson was carrying a knife in the East End in the autumn of 1888 is...?
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