Internal organ removing SK

[Abby Normal]

Has there ever been a serial killer that removed and took away internal organs like the ripper?

[Trevor Marriott]

Has there ever been a serial killer that removed and took away internal organs like the ripper?

Is that what you believe the ripper did ? What are your sources to prove that this is correct ?

https://www.trevormarriott.co.uk

[John G]

Has there ever been a serial killer that removed and took away internal organs like the ripper?

Hello Abby,

Many serial killers have taken body parts as trophies, for example, Kemper, Bundy, Jerry Brudos.

In December 1888 John Gill, a 7 year old boy, was found murdered in Manningham, Bradford. His legs were severed, abdomen opened, intestines drawn out, and his heart and one ear removed.

[John Wheat]

Is that what you believe the ripper did ? What are your sources to prove that this is correct ?

www.trevormarriott.co.uk

Next Trevor will be suggesting that the Whitechapel Victims were actually botched abortions and that there organs were taken away by the coroners of the time or something.

Cheers John

[Harry D]

Has there ever been a serial killer that removed and took away internal organs like the ripper?

While not technically a serial killer (he only murdered two women), Robert Napper removed a portion of uterus from one of his victims.

[packers stem]

Ah but has anyone done it in total darkness on a time limit I wonder?

[Abby Normal]

Hello Abby,

Many serial killers have taken body parts as trophies, for example, Kemper, Bundy, Jerry Brudos.

In December 1888 John Gill, a 7 year old boy, was found murdered in Manningham, Bradford. His legs were severed, abdomen opened, intestines drawn out, and his heart and one ear removed.

Hi JohnG
Thanks!
yes I know all about them-but they didn't remove and take away internal organs did they?

In December 1888 John Gill, a 7 year old boy, was found murdered in Manningham, Bradford. His legs were severed, abdomen opened, intestines drawn out, and his heart and one ear removed.

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Ive often wondered if this murder was by the ripper, or the torso/ripper.
Were his legs completely severed?
how far is it from London?

[Harry D]

Ive often wondered if this murder was by the ripper, or the torso/ripper.
Were his legs completely severed?
how far is it from London?

About 200 miles.

[sdreid]

The Cleveland Torso Killer took away heads which contained an internal organ-the brain. John Johnson took livers.

[lynn cates]

total darkness?

Hello Packer.

"Ah but has anyone done it in total darkness on a time limit I wonder?"

No. Certainly NOT in 1888. And that includes the "JTR" killings.

Cheers.
LC

[mklhawley]

Thieve's Candles

Has there ever been a serial killer that removed and took away internal organs like the ripper?

Hi Abby,

Here's one:

Chicago Tribune, November 18, 1888:

THE WHITECHAPEL MURDERS.
…That a person with homicidal tendency goes without saying. He has been set down as a lunatic of murderous disposition; a crazed medical student; a wronged man taking revenge upon dissolute women in general because one of their class has done him an injury; a madman with irrepressible spoils of murderous insanity; and a victim of Middle Age superstition whose object it is to make “thieves’ candles” from the organs which he takes away – a practice which is described specifically in the criminal codes of the seventeenth century. The survival of the superstition among German thieves to this day is shown by the trial of a case at Biala in Galicia as lat as 1875, where the body of a woman was found mutilated in precisely the same manner as the Whitechapel victims…


Jewish Chronicle, October 12, 1888:

THE RITTER CASE.
Dr. Bloch, Member of the Austrian Reichsrath, in communicating to the Standard correspondent in Vienna certain facts which may throw a new light on the Whitechapel murders, refers incidentally to the Ritter case. Dr. Bloch speaks of an old superstition still rife in parts of Germany, that the light thrown from "thieve's candles" or "soporific candles," which are made from certain organs in the female body, will send those on whom it falls into a deep sleep, and thereby become a valuable instrument for thieves. At the trial of the Ritters in Galicia, the prevalence among thieves of the superstition was alluded to by the Public Prosecutor. But the Court preferred harping on another alleged superstition of a ritual character among the Jews of Galicia, which, however, was shown to be a pure invention of the Judenhetze. Dr. Bloch was for ten years a Chief Rabbi in Galicia, and has made the superstitions of that province his special study.


Sincerely,

Mike

[jerryd]

Is that what you believe the ripper did ? What are your sources to prove that this is correct ?

www.trevormarriott.co.uk

Echo London Middlesex November 13, 1888

[Trevor Marriott]

Echo London Middlesex November 13, 1888

So a newspaper report is conclusive proof ? I dont think so

[RockySullivan]

The Cleveland Torso Killer took away heads which contained an internal organ-the brain. John Johnson took livers.

Didn't the Mad Butcher also take away an external organ...in the one case of the identified male?

[sdreid]

Didn't the Mad Butcher also take away an external organ...in the one case of the identified male?

Not sure. Assuming you mean Andrassy, he was emasculated but I think that part was found with the same of the companion victim.