Did Steve Wright get a fair trial in Ipswich?

[Dark Ali]

OK, if you have evidence which you believe has been ignored by the police the organisation to contact is Innocent, who are UK based and deal with miscarriages of justice.
It really doesn't matter who believes you or not here, we are, by in large, members of the public who have an interest in a particular area of Victorian history in common, not a jury and not members of the legal profession and even if you have hard and fast evidence proving the involvement of another offender we are not people who can help you. I pointed out on the second post of this thread that evidence should be passed on to the correct body as there are procedures to follow. Talk to someone from Innocent, or ring Crimestoppers. Or you could take up my first suggestion and lobby the Home Office.

[Derrick]

OK, if you have evidence which you believe has been ignored by the police the organisation to contact is Innocent, who are UK based and deal with miscarriages of justice.
It really doesn't matter who believes you or not here, we are, by in large, members of the public who have an interest in a particular area of Victorian history in common, not a jury and not members of the legal profession and even if you have hard and fast evidence proving the involvement of another offender we are not people who can help you. I pointed out on the second post of this thread that evidence should be passed on to the correct body as there are procedures to follow. Talk to someone from Innocent, or ring Crimestoppers. Or you could take up my first suggestion and lobby the Home Office.

I couldn't have put it better myself.

To JSI

Besides an absolute miracle, you are not going to get anything from these forums so I would do the decent thing and leave it there.

I agree that you and Noel have some interesting points.

Those who don't agree have shown that you are not going to persuade them one iota.

Leave it there eh. Try another route and retire gracefully from this one.

Just some very good advice from a pal.
Derrick

[Nemo]

If the killer transported the women to the location of their discovery by carrying the body over his shoulder, the body would naturally fall into a cruciform position when he lay it down - the hair would be straight up from the head if he lay it down with some force ie due to exhaustion in the effort

[Nemo]

On 7th Dec,three days before the body of Anneli Alderton was found on the 10th, a witness named Terrence Nunn had seen the body in undergrowth but failed to report it as he thought it was a mannequin

Sound familiar?

[jsi2010]

On 7th Dec,three days before the body of Anneli Alderton was found on the 10th, a witness named Terrence Nunn had seen the body in undergrowth but failed to report it as he thought it was a mannequin

Sound familiar?

Yep sure does sound familiar as the person who discovered Paula Clenelle said exactly the same when he first saw her, it was not untill he went further to take a closer look that he realised he had actually seen a body.
It just goes to show that people do not expect to see dead bodies laying around with the police headquaters a couple of miles down the road.
The person who discovered her had all his clothes etc taken away at the time and has still not got them back, his car even though in the garage up the road at Nacton was taken too, his life has been turned upside down by this, can anyone wonder why people may be reluctant to get involved and I admitt I had the same fears at the time.
Steve Wright is nothing to me and is controlled by his brother David and the authorities and if he does not want help so be it but I know there is another person involved and he will be brought to justice......... Regards jsi

[jsi2010]

I couldn't have put it better myself.

To JSI

Besides an absolute miracle, you are not going to get anything from these forums so I would do the decent thing and leave it there.

I agree that you and Noel have some interesting points.

Those who don't agree have shown that you are not going to persuade them one iota.

Leave it there eh. Try another route and retire gracefully from this one.

Just some very good advice from a pal.
Derrick

573 views yesterday and regular figures in the 400's say there is alot of interest being shown here, this is just one of many avenues being pursued but thank you for your advice.............Regards jsi

[jsi2010]

I can give the location and position of Anette Nicholls, although the position she was in has been vaguely described, the police have never released photgraphs of the position she was laid in so only people who actually saw the body could describe it accurately......... Regards jsi

Challenge !!!!!!!!!!....... It is said by some on here how widely the position of the 2 posed girls was reported.
Ok describe the position of Anette and her position as to the road ie ; which way was she facing ? Head towards Ipswich or Felixstowe or neither ?
Was she laid on her back or front and what parts of the body were visible ? Stating where you obtained this information ( I can only speak in relation to Anette Nicholls)......Regards jsi

[Dark Ali]

OK, if you have evidence which you believe has been ignored by the police the organisation to contact is Innocent, who are UK based and deal with miscarriages of justice.
It really doesn't matter who believes you or not here, we are, by in large, members of the public who have an interest in a particular area of Victorian history in common, not a jury and not members of the legal profession and even if you have hard and fast evidence proving the involvement of another offender we are not people who can help you. I pointed out on the second post of this thread that evidence should be passed on to the correct body as there are procedures to follow. Talk to someone from Innocent, or ring Crimestoppers. Or you could take up my first suggestion and lobby the Home Office.

Obviously I am the rhinoceros in the room, twice now I have offered suggestions on how you could have moved forward if you believed a cover up had happened, but that was never your intention. You have a different agenda than I would have if I believed there had been a miscarriage of justice. I would be doing everything I could do through the correct channels to bring it to the attention of the relevant authorities, but you have been less than honest with us here about your involvement and motives John. A Google search of your email tells us you are working for or are) John Symonds Investigations, not just a concerned private member of the general public with some information the police have ignored.

[jsi2010]

[QUOTE=Dark Ali;157505]Obviously I am the rhinoceros in the room, twice now I have offered suggestions on how you could have moved forward if you believed a cover up had happened, but that was never your intention. You have a different agenda than I would have if I believed there had been a miscarriage of justice. I would be doing everything I could do through the correct channels to bring it to the attention of the relevant authorities, but you have been less than honest with us here about your involvement and motives John. A Google search of your email tells us you are working for or are) John Symonds Investigations, not just a concerned private member of the general public with some information the police have ignored.[/QUOTE

If you had read my posts correctly you would see that I undertook a certificate in p.I to enable me to deal with this with credentials and competance and yes I have set up JSI INVESTIGATIONS as a result, so your point is ?
I do not work as a p.I. at the moment and all my efforts are entirely voluntary and never received a penny from any source, in fact this costs me money my friend so take a hike m8
I have made no attempt at covering this up at all and I believe there may be a link on my profile to my website so big deal mr.
All I have said still stands so try and discredit me all you like it wo'nt change a thing.
As for your suggestions I have said on more than one occassion that there are many avenues being pursued and this is just one to get people aware and talking about it and with 573 views yesterday its working
strange how no one comes up with any credible counter debate just attempts at discrediting me, quite disappointing really ............. Regards jsi

[Ally]

No one needs to discredit you, you do a marvelous job of that yourself. And the reason no one is bothering to "counter debate" is that you ignore and shriek rather than responding whenever anyone presents a counter point.

The reason no one is bothering to respond to you any more is that you don't actually respond to the points raised, and then claim other people are to blame.

Page views mean nothing. Everyone likes to watch monkeys dance and you are proving an amusing distraction.

If you actually once bothered to respond to anyone's point with reason, maybe you'd have a debate, but you don't.

So don't blame others for the situation you have wrought.

[Fleetwood Mac]

Right....I have a theory....and it ain't exactly transcending the boundaries of earthly wisdom....

Noel and JSI have a similar writing/posting style......Noel shamelessly advertised his Yorkshire Ripper site at the end of a post pleading for the Steve Wright's rights.....basically....the theory is...wait for it...Noel and JSI are one and the same...and Noel is writing any old shite on a message board based around a few scraps of truth in order to generate some interest in his Yorkshire Ripper site...close?

[Derrick]

The reason no one is bothering to respond to you any more is that you don't actually respond to the points raised, and then claim other people are to blame.

You responded! Perhaps you can't help yourself eh?

Regards
Derrick

[jsi2010]

Right....I have a theory....and it ain't exactly transcending the boundaries of earthly wisdom....

Noel and JSI have a similar writing/posting style......Noel shamelessly advertised his Yorkshire Ripper site at the end of a post pleading for the Steve Wright's rights.....basically....the theory is...wait for it...Noel and JSI are one and the same...and Noel is writing any old shite on a message board based around a few scraps of truth in order to generate some interest in his Yorkshire Ripper site...close?

I think you will find noel is banned from here and the admin you so highly praise would recognise the ip addresses ! Noels is in Ireland and mine is in England, Noel is Irish and aged 65 and I am Felixstowe born and bred aged 50 come see me anytime in Ipswich. Why then would I advertise a website in Ipswich when Noel lives in Ireland ? Cant wait to see this one !! Good lord you people do like to make stuff up dont you most of you make no attempt at adult discussion at all but only throw verbal stones hoping I will cry and go away, well guess what my second name is sponge, love ya mwah x x x Regards jsi

[Derrick]

Right....I have a theory....and it ain't exactly transcending the boundaries of earthly wisdom....

Noel and JSI have a similar writing/posting style......Noel shamelessly advertised his Yorkshire Ripper site at the end of a post pleading for the Steve Wright's rights.....basically....the theory is...wait for it...Noel and JSI are one and the same...and Noel is writing any old shite on a message board based around a few scraps of truth in order to generate some interest in his Yorkshire Ripper site...close?

Hi Peter Green...sorry Fleetwood Mac...He was a genius guitarist though.

I would just like to reiterate what a complete balls up O'Gara and his crew made of the Ronald Castree case.

I wouldn't trust these people with looking after my greenhouse let alone my liberty.

Regards
Derrick

[jsi2010]

Hi Peter Green...sorry Fleetwood Mac...He was a genius guitarist though.

I would just like to reiterate what a complete balls up O'Gara and his crew made of the Ronald Castree case.

I wouldn't trust these people with looking after my greenhouse let alone my liberty.

Regards
Derrick

I know nothing of that case and am not interested my only interest is this case.
Actually I am a dam good gardener thanks derrick and I am independant of anyone............ Regards jsi