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  • Veronica76
    Cadet
    • Jul 2009
    • 14

    #1

    1940's murders

    Does anyone know of any 40's murders other than Haigh/Heath/Cummins etc anything unusual/unsolved ?
    Many thanks
  • sdreid
    Commissioner
    • Feb 2008
    • 4956

    #2
    Hi Veronica,

    Are you just looking for British multiples as per your examples? Otherwise, there are thousands.
    This my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking.

    Stan Reid

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    • Steve S
      Casebook Supporter
      • Jun 2008
      • 378

      #3
      Brain not working properly today...Was the Lower Quinton 'Black Magic' murder '40's....?..Seem to recall POW's being suspected......
      Steve

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      • Veronica76
        Cadet
        • Jul 2009
        • 14

        #4
        Hi Steve

        Thanks for the repy

        No got books on the Witchcraft murders with Charles Walton & Bella in the Well etc even had a look at Times archive but not much there any ideas ?

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        • Veronica76
          Cadet
          • Jul 2009
          • 14

          #5
          Hi Stan

          Thanks for the reply yes looking for either but must be unsolved if possible also noticed your in the States, do you know anything about Harvey Glatman & San Diego serial killer in the 1930s ? about 6 women killed never solved very little online about either case would be grateful for any info

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          • sdreid
            Commissioner
            • Feb 2008
            • 4956

            #6
            Glatman was in the 50s and is solved.

            I have at least one book that gives an account of the San Diego case but it sounds so sketchy that I wonder if I should believe it ever really happened. If it did, the methods seem different enough that I'm not sure why they thought it was one killer. Maybe they had a description that matched or something.

            The top cases from the forties, in my view, would be Black Dahlia, Lord Errol, Harry Oakes and Texarkana Phantom. There are other "good" ones as well.
            This my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking.

            Stan Reid

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            • Veronica76
              Cadet
              • Jul 2009
              • 14

              #7
              Wasn't there something about a girl hung from a tree in the San Diego one ?? they all sounded quite gory but i cant find anything on them, did find some old newspaper stuff which seems to authenticate them but very confusing ...

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              • Stewart P Evans
                Superintendent
                • Apr 2008
                • 2994

                #8
                Brighton

                Originally posted by Veronica76 View Post
                Does anyone know of any 40's murders other than Haigh/Heath/Cummins etc anything unusual/unsolved ?
                Many thanks
                There was the murder of Mrs. Florence Elizabeth Buckley, aged 47, whose body was found on a flat roof behind her dance studio (she was a dance instructress) on November 2, 1940. She lived at Mitre House, Brighton. Screams, growing fainter, were heard that night when a search was being made for her as she had been missed.
                SPE

                Treat me gently I'm a newbie.

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                • Veronica76
                  Cadet
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 14

                  #9
                  Hi Stewart

                  Tyou so much for this never heard of this one and im always on the lookout for new ones, what was the cuase of death ?
                  I did have a book on Brighton murders but it didnt have this one

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                  • sdreid
                    Commissioner
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 4956

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Veronica76 View Post
                    Wasn't there something about a girl hung from a tree in the San Diego one ?? they all sounded quite gory but i cant find anything on them, did find some old newspaper stuff which seems to authenticate them but very confusing ...
                    The account I have says that the crimes were brought up after the Short murder.

                    Yes, supposedly a girl named Louise Teuber was found hanging in a tree. Some were said to be tortured, some raped - some were said to be killed by strangulation, some by stabbing and some by beating. I don't really see a pattern except that all the victims were female, even then, there were likely men beaten and stabbed to death there too in that time period.
                    This my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking.

                    Stan Reid

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                    • Stewart P Evans
                      Superintendent
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 2994

                      #11
                      Odd

                      Originally posted by Veronica76 View Post
                      Hi Stewart
                      Tyou so much for this never heard of this one and im always on the lookout for new ones, what was the cuase of death ?
                      I did have a book on Brighton murders but it didnt have this one
                      It was an odd case, she used the studio as a club. There had been several people in the room that night and a witness, Mrs. Buckley, left at 10.00 pm. Some of the injuries could have been caused by the fall from the window opening onto the roof, but not all of them. Some might even have been caused by the wheel of a vehicle. It was thought that she was carried to the window by more than one person. The verdict of 'murder by persons unknown' was returned by the jury.
                      SPE

                      Treat me gently I'm a newbie.

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                      • Veronica76
                        Cadet
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 14

                        #12
                        Hi Stewart

                        Sounds strange, so did she actally have a definate cause of death ? and was she possibly involved in things she shouldn't have been ?...........

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                        • Cogidubnus
                          Assistant Commissioner
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 3266

                          #13
                          Something new every day

                          Good heavens

                          I've just come across this thread...when I first left school my very first job was at Mitre House, Brighton...

                          And I knew nothing of the Buckley case until now. I suppose I'd better gen up on it!

                          All the best

                          Dave

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                          • Graham
                            Assistant Commissioner
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 3813

                            #14
                            What about Dr John Bodkin-Adams in Eastbourne? A number of his wealthy female patients met their Maker while he was attending them, but he was acquitted at his trial, so the murders are technically still unsolved.

                            Graham
                            We are suffering from a plethora of surmise, conjecture and hypothesis. - Sherlock Holmes, The Adventure Of Silver Blaze

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                            • Hatchett
                              Detective
                              • Sep 2009
                              • 425

                              #15
                              I think the Lord Errol case is a classic.Pretty much like a high society film. It would be great for a a group discussion.

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