The Reid Scale: Classic Unsolved Murder Cases

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  • sdreid
    Commissioner
    • Feb 2008
    • 4956

    #181
    It's almost as if her attacker knew when she would be alone
    This my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking.

    Stan Reid

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    • sdreid
      Commissioner
      • Feb 2008
      • 4956

      #182
      Some more examples:

      0-John List
      1-James Earl Ray
      2-Elmer Crawford
      3-Riverdell Hospital Killer
      4-Babysitter
      5-Paraquat Killer
      This my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking.

      Stan Reid

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      • sdreid
        Commissioner
        • Feb 2008
        • 4956

        #183
        Originally posted by sdreid View Post
        Sullivan was actually living two other women.
        I think some have suggested that her killer was an acquaintance of one of the other women.
        This my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking.

        Stan Reid

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        • sdreid
          Commissioner
          • Feb 2008
          • 4956

          #184
          According to an eminent source, DNA from one of those acquaintances was found with Sullivan's body after an exhumation.
          This my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking.

          Stan Reid

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          • sdreid
            Commissioner
            • Feb 2008
            • 4956

            #185
            0-Neville Heath
            1-Darlie Routier
            2-Willian Bradford Bishop
            3-Lord Erroll Murder
            4-Tylenol Murders
            5-Weldone Atherstone Murder
            This my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking.

            Stan Reid

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            • sdreid
              Commissioner
              • Feb 2008
              • 4956

              #186
              Routier is presently on death row.
              This my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking.

              Stan Reid

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              • sdreid
                Commissioner
                • Feb 2008
                • 4956

                #187
                Routier has been there for 18 years which must be close to a record for Texas.
                This my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking.

                Stan Reid

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                • sdreid
                  Commissioner
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 4956

                  #188
                  Originally posted by sdreid View Post
                  Routier has been there for 18 years which must be close to a record for Texas.
                  Actually, I just checked and there's a guy there who's been on death row for 38 years because he's supposedly mentally unfit to be executed.
                  This my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking.

                  Stan Reid

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                  • GUT
                    Commissioner
                    • Jan 2014
                    • 7841

                    #189
                    Originally posted by sdreid View Post
                    Actually, I just checked and there's a guy there who's been on death row for 38 years because he's supposedly mentally unfit to be executed.
                    Am I the only one who thinks it's a bit nutty, but not as bad as "He's sick [physically] so we have to get him better so we can kill him"
                    G U T

                    There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                    • sdreid
                      Commissioner
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 4956

                      #190
                      Yes, I guess we want them to feel like they are losing something.
                      This my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking.

                      Stan Reid

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                      • John G
                        Commissioner
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 4919

                        #191
                        Originally posted by sdreid View Post
                        Hello,

                        There seems to be some dispute about what cases should be considered unsolved so I thought I'd create a scale like we have for tornadoes. I'll post it here and over on that other site. Here are the categories and at least one example of each.

                        The Reid Scale: Classic Unsolved Murder Cases

                        Level 0: Cases with a standing conviction and where there is no serious doubt regarding the verdict (Ted Bundy).

                        Level 1: Cases where there is a standing conviction but some doubt about it (James Hanratty) or cases where there is no conviction but where there is little doubt regarding the perpetrator (Bella Kiss).

                        Level 2: Cases where there is no standing conviction but where there is a better than even chance that one suspect did it (Lizzie Borden).

                        Level 3: Cases where there are good suspects but they are independent and/or conflicting (Jack the Ripper).

                        Level 4: Cases where there is no serious suspect (The Original Nightstalker).

                        So there you be.
                        What level would you categorize the Julia Wallace murder? A murder so mysterious that it was described by Raymond Chandler as "...the nonpareil of all murder mysteries...I call it an impossible murder because Wallace couldn't have done it and neither could anyone else...the Wallace case is unbeatable; it will always be unbeatable." Frankly, I'm inclined to agree! As Dorothy L Sayers remarked, "The problem of the Wallace murder had no key- move and ended, in fact, in stalemate."

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                        • sdreid
                          Commissioner
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 4956

                          #192
                          At present, I would put Wallace at a 3 on that old scale or 4 on the updated scale.

                          When I say "better than even chance", I mean by an undisputed consensus, not my personal feeling.
                          Last edited by sdreid; 10-17-2014, 07:57 AM.
                          This my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking.

                          Stan Reid

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                          • John G
                            Commissioner
                            • Sep 2014
                            • 4919

                            #193
                            Originally posted by sdreid View Post
                            At present, I would put Wallace at a 3 on that old scale or 4 on the updated scale.

                            When I say "better than even chance", I mean by an undisputed consensus, not my personal feeling.
                            I would rate it a 4, based upon personal opinion. In fact, just when I think I've arrived at a reasonable solution I quickly realize I'm back to square one. Of the two viable candidates, Wallace would have to have been an Olympic runner, rather than a late middle aged man with a serious disability, and Parry had accumulated an entire platoon of alibis, which some might say is suspicious in itself.

                            If you haven't seen it before, this website provides an excellent, detailed analysis of the case: http://inacityliving.blogspot.co.uk/...rder-case.html
                            Last edited by John G; 10-17-2014, 08:37 AM.

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                            • sdreid
                              Commissioner
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 4956

                              #194
                              I know where you're coming from. Right now, I'm about 55% on the side that Wallace did it.
                              This my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking.

                              Stan Reid

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                              • sdreid
                                Commissioner
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 4956

                                #195
                                55% Wallace-40% Parry-5% the field
                                This my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking.

                                Stan Reid

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